Top Cats Hat Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said: Especially when the subs were so high compared to other members. Do you Brexiteers have a special facebook page or crank US website where you get all your fake news from? The UK is the second largest economy in the EU but pays the eighth highest contribution. This means that six countries with smaller GDPs than us pay in more. Yet another widely believed lie from the leave campain, that discredits the 2016 vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said: But no longer have to pay subs. Especially when the subs were so high compared to other members. But you still have to pay the subs you owe, otherwise other clubs won't let you in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, truman said: You leave a club,you don't get the benefits... Leaving the club is one thing. But that club being so petty is another. I wouldn't expect to have all the benefits after leaving. But a mutually beneficial relationship would suit both sides is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, hobinfoot said: Leaving the club is one thing. But that club being so petty is another. I wouldn't expect to have all the benefits after leaving. But a mutually beneficial relationship would suit both sides is. Why should non members get the same deal as members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, truman said: Why should non members get the same deal as members? I said I didn't expect us to have the same benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrexitGuy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Do you Brexiteers have a special facebook page or crank US website where you get all your fake news from? The UK is the second largest economy in the EU but pays the eighth highest contribution. This means that six countries with smaller GDPs than us pay in more. Yet another widely believed lie from the leave campain, that discredits the 2016 vote. We are third highest on the list, behind Spain and Germany. But this is ignored by remoaners, as is the revelation that the UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back. In 2017 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4 billion. So the UK's 'net contribution' was estimated at nearly £9 billion. I would say that's a pretty hefty sum, unless you want to say this is a lie too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said: as is the revelation that the UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back. Since when was that a revelation? The whole point of EU economic strategy is to reduce the differences between all EU states and make us all richer. That means the strongest economies pay more, the weaker ones receive more. Redistribution of wealth on an international level. That's why Trump, Putin, the far right and the €urosceptic wing of the Tory party hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 tony abbot the former prime minister of australia see things different for us https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/tony-abbott-how-to-save-brexit/ makes you wonder whos trying to bully who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: But that club being so petty is another. I Petty? Since day 1 all they've done is play it by the rule book, that we helped write. It's been over 2 years, and we haven't even told them what kind of deal we want yet. They've been unbelievably patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Leaving the club is one thing. But that club being so petty is another. I wouldn't expect to have all the benefits after leaving. But a mutually beneficial relationship would suit both sides is. There’s nothing petty about international trade. It’s dog eat dog. And the EU, even without the U.K., is one of the biggest out there. Reality!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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