The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[hobinfoot]

2 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

You didn’t answer the question.

 

If the government expects that the suicide rate will increase should it continue?

The government is following the referendum result. And I've not heard anything about the suicide rate increasing after brexit.

[hobinfoot]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

A non binding, advisory only referendum does not give instructions, it just gives the government an idea about what the mood of the country is. Despite all the screaming and shouting, the 2016 vote obliges the government to do nothing.

 

Article 50 was triggered by an Act of Parliament and if the repercussions of following this through would be great damage to the people and the economy of the UK then there is nothing stopping the government, with the support of Parliament, changing tack.

 

We don't need a referendum to halt the Brexit process, and even if we did, the cranks, racists and extremists will still scream and shout. Most people would just sigh a huge sigh of relief.

At no time was the referendum said to us to be none-binding by those in power.

[apelike]

2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

A non binding, advisory only referendum does not give instructions, it just gives the government an idea about what the mood of the country is. Despite all the screaming and shouting, the 2016 vote obliges the government to do nothing.

Still screaming and shouting that it was not binding are we when everybody already knows. They also knows that the result was carried out as promised by the government and sanctioned by parliament making the non-binding bit now a matter for the bin! No matter how often you keep repeating it its now well passed the stage of non-binding.

Edited December 20, 2018 by apelike

[SnailyBoy]

Strange situation where the Eur

7 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

How about this one:

 

"Italy was threatened with sanctions. Last week, the government in Rome caved in, drafting a new, more austere budget. Whether it’s sufficient to placate the commission remains to be seen."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/europes-merciless-treatment-of-italy-only-hardens-popular-resentment

Interesting opinion piece.

 

So who's really at fault for Italy's woes, the EU or the Italian Government?

 

 

[Top Cats Hat]

8 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

At no time was the referendum said to us to be none-binding by those in power.

Statements by those in power are just those statements.

 

Nowhere in the legislation did it say anywhere, that the result would be anything other than advisory.

[apelike]

4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Nowhere in the legislation did it say anywhere, that the result would be anything other than advisory.

But in a democracy people should be able to change their mind and the MP's did just that!

[SnailyBoy]

So we should be able to change our minds now, bearing in mind what we know?

 

Edited December 20, 2018 by SnailyBoy

[Top Cats Hat]

5 minutes ago, apelike said:

and sanctioned by parliament making the none-binding bit now a matter for the bin!

As indeed is the original referendum itself.

 

Article 50 was enacted by an Act of Parliament in 2017 not the referendum in 2016. As such, it can also be revoked by an act of Parliament if it is seen to be too damaging to the UK and not supported by either the public or the majority of MPs.

[hobinfoot]

1 minute ago, Top Cats Hat said:

As indeed is the original referendum itself.

 

Article 50 was enacted by an Act of Parliament in 2017 not the referendum in 2016. As such, it can also be revoked by an act of Parliament if it is seen to be too damaging to the UK and not supported by either the public or the majority of MPs.

Article 50 was enacted by parliament after the referendum vote was won by the leave side. If the remain side had won then no enactment would have been necessary.

[Top Cats Hat]

8 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Article 50 was enacted by parliament after the referendum vote was won by the leave side. If the remain side had won then no enactment would have been necessary.

No enactment was necessary at all, given that neither side could attract even 40% of the electorate.