I1L2T3 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 A remain decision would result in immediate economic benefits. Sterling would strengthen a little. Investment decisions on hold would be progressed. Consumer and business confidence would rise. Uncertainty would end for businesses. Uneccessary and expensive no deal preparations could be stopped. That is in stark contrast to the economic cliff edge threatened by no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Is everyone going to stop trading with us after brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: What we need now is closure. The only was for closure and to end the none sense is for the UK to leave the EU on 29th March. If what we need is closure, then leaving in the 29th most certainly won't bring it since that is the UK simply entering the metaphorical starting blocks of the Brexit process. This is just the beginning, leaving means it'll go on for decades more, the exact opposite of closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: Of course the EU referendum was an election. By all means after the result of the 2016 EU has been implemented and a reasonable time has elapsed then discussions about whether the UK want to rejoin the EU should take place in a democratic society. It would be ludicrous if a political party won a UK General Election and there was another General Election before the party who had just won the General Election formed a Government. What we need now is closure. The only was for closure and to end the none sense is for the UK to leave the EU on 29th March. It was an election but unlike a General Election which puts a party in power for a specified period,there is no time constraint in having a further referendum either before or after enactment of the 2016 decision. 2 years seems to be a reasonable time to take stock of what Brexit probably means ,as opposed to the meaningless “Brexit means Brexit “ Its a bit like a convicted criminal seeking leave to appeal because new evidence has come to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Is everyone going to stop trading with us after brexit? Has anyone suggested they would? Don't think so. Brexit does mean that trade with our biggest partners is more expensive, complex and time consuming, so we become naturally less attractive. Reducing the complexities of international trade, treaty, border and tarrifs to simplistic terms as you do here is one of the primary reasons Brexit is such a mess. If the question is trade related, there's nothing stopping anyone trading now and if deals must be made, you get better terms if you're a bigger player... the real question is why do we need Brexit at all? Simple answer for you, we don't! Edited December 23, 2018 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Is everyone going to stop trading with us after brexit? NO you've hit the nail on the head 8 minutes ago, RJRB said: It was an election but unlike a General Election which puts a party in power for a specified period,there is no time constraint in having a further referendum either before or after enactment of the 2016 decision. 2 years seems to be a reasonable time to take stock of what Brexit probably means ,as opposed to the meaningless “Brexit means Brexit “ Its a bit like a convicted criminal seeking leave to appeal because new evidence has come to light. Your post is not worthy of a reply. 15 minutes ago, Magilla said: If what we need is closure, then leaving in the 29th most certainly won't bring it since that is the UK simply entering the metaphorical starting blocks of the Brexit process. This is just the beginning, leaving means it'll go on for decades more, the exact opposite of closure. Your post is not worthy of a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Quote Your post is not worthy of a reply. Your post is not worthy of a reply. Of course, because your argument just went down in flames Edited December 23, 2018 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 How can you have a second referendum before the original referendum is implemented?. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Is everyone going to stop trading with us after brexit? No, it's just that the trading is going to be considerably more expensive on both sides, so where possible the people buying from us will seek cheaper alternatives. We won't have much of an option, so our trade deficit will increase, our income will decrease and the cost of things will increase. You can see how this is suboptimal I hope? Just now, ANGELFIRE1 said: How can you have a second referendum before the original referendum is implemented?. Angel1. How? Well, exactly the same way that we had the first one, polling stations, bits of paper, people making crosses. Which bit is confusing you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, ANGELFIRE1 said: How can you have a second referendum before the original referendum is implemented? Why can't you have a second referendum before the original referendum is implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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