Litotes Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 And I am sick of leavers presenting their opinions as thought they were sacrosanct and that they were gods-given source of knowledge of what the country wanted. You seem to choose to ignore that over 50 % of the population did not vote to leave. You seem to ignore that it has been proven that the leave campaign broke the LAW and have been proven to have done so. You seem to ignore the fact that leavers are now saying (in their droves) that they want a second referendum so they can change their minds - as advocated by David Davies. So we are both sick of hearing each other - status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Litotes said: You seem to choose to ignore that over 50 % of the population did not vote to leave. See previous post as this is a classic example. 15 minutes ago, Litotes said: You seem to ignore that it has been proven that the leave campaign broke the LAW and have been proven to have done so. And you seem to ignore that it has also been proven that remain broke the law as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Litotes said: You seem to ignore the fact that leavers are now saying (in their droves) that they want a second referendum so they can change their minds - as advocated by David Davies. Not the David Davis bit again.. He was not talking about our democracy but the failure of the EU to allow the democratic elected countries to be able to change their minds on certain points once they have been admitted into the EU no matter how you try and spin it. Quote from the Independent: Mr Davis said: “If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”. At the time he was criticising the EU for imposing irreversible laws on member states - something the current Brexit Secretary said was "not just undemocratic, it is anti-democratic”. Edited December 28, 2018 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, apelike said: Not the David Davis bit again.. He was not talking about our democracy but the failure of the EU to allow the democratic elected countries to be able to change their minds on certain points once they have been admitted into the EU no matter how you try and spin it. Quote: Mr Davis said: “If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”. At the time he was criticising the EU for imposing irreversible laws on member states - something the current Brexit Secretary said was "not just undemocratic, it is anti-democratic”. Ahhh, so a different democracy, not your every day type of democracy. So when should our democracy get to change its mind? Edited December 28, 2018 by SnailyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, apelike said: Mr Davis said: “If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”. It still remains a valid statement. In the same way that you seem to forget this one - In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. - Nigel Farage 2016 You didn't disagree at the time - so I imagine you still stand by the sentiment. Edited December 28, 2018 by Litotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Litotes said: It still remains a valid statement. It does indeed but not in the context of what you state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, apelike said: It does indeed but not in the context of what you state. Whereas I prefer to take it in this context and agree with it. 2 minutes ago, apelike said: It does indeed but not in the context of what you state. Whereas I prefer to take it in this context and agree with it. In fact, let's a look at what you say - you agree with the statement that a democracy should be allowed to change its mind - True? but you don't agree that the country should be allowed another referendum to see if it has changed its mind now it know what 'Brexit" might look like? True? So you contradict yourself? True????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Litotes said: So you contradict yourself? True????? No not true as I have never stated that this country should not be allowed another referendum.. Good try though. 12 minutes ago, Litotes said: In the same way that you seem to forget this one - In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. - Nigel Farage 2016 You didn't disagree at the time - so I imagine you still stand by the sentiment. BTW what time are you talking about and why do you assume that I am a Farage fanboy? Edited December 28, 2018 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, apelike said: No not true as I have never stated that this country should not be allowed another referendum.. Good try though. Well you kinda did. On 12/17/2018 at 5:47 PM, apelike said: Yes it will. For me however I will accept what parliament decide but I dont think it should be a public decision for reasons I have stated before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said: Well you kinda did. I think you need to look up why people like to use the word "kinda" Edited December 28, 2018 by apelike forgot the emoji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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