I1L2T3 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Lockdoctor said: It's MPs like Anna Soubry who have contempt for democracy who are to blame for the fraught relations in the UK at the moment. However two wrongs don't make a right and Anna Soubry should not have been harassed in that way by the yobs. I don't want to see the UK turned into the new Zimbabwe where their people are cheated out of democracy but that is exactly what Anna Soubry is seeking to do. Only saw part of the program. Switched off. You should outright confirming what happened to Soubry, without qualification. Seriously, you’ve utterly lost the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DnAuK said: On the lorry front - I thouht this made good reading. https://www.ft.com/content/d05498f6-1299-11e9-a581-4ff78404524e Delving deeper it seems to indicate that delays of up to 40 seconds per lorry are 'managable' but anything above that increases delays exponentially. "80 seconds per truck would lead to 'no recovery' — described by an official as widespread permanent gridlock" Empty shelves in supermarkets within 1 week according to the interviews from those in the know this morning... whoopsy. If people think the public will revolt on no-Brexit, just wait to see how crazy they go when simple things like food get scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, Magilla said: "80 seconds per truck would lead to 'no recovery' — described by an official as widespread permanent gridlock" Empty shelves in supermarkets within 1 week according to the interviews from those in the know this morning... whoopsy. If people think the public will revolt on no-Brexit, just wait to see how crazy they go when simple things like food get scarce. The swivel headed nutjobs like Mogg will blame the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, I1L2T3 said: The swivel headed nutjobs like Mogg will blame the EU yup, itll be them "punishing" us, like they already have with the crap deal already negotiated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: The swivel headed nutjobs like Mogg will blame the EU It will start with the EU, then foreign looking people in the UK. The "you're not even English" comment from the yellow vest gob ****es was telling. If and when the economy takes a dip, these knuckledraggers will be looking for others to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, I1L2T3 said: You should outright confirming what happened to Soubry, without qualification. Seriously, you’ve utterly lost the plot Sorry you're not making any sense. I have condemned the behaviour of the yobs who harassed Anna Soubry. However just because some yobs have behaved badly towards her doesn't mean she should be pardoned for her own disgraceful behaviour and contempt for democracy. Anna Soubry like every MP should be supporting Brexit because Leave won the democratic vote and every constituency have people who voted to leave the EU. 3 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: But arent you then denying the democratic will of the democratic people to democratically vote for her if the want to, democratically? It's just my own personal opinion that Anna Soubry is an unfit person to be elected to any position. You're quite correct, if she stands for any elected position then it is up to the electorate to decide if they personally want to vote for a candidate who only respects democracy when it suits their own personal views. 2 hours ago, alchresearch said: What, you mean the inconclusive result in a non-binding referendum in 2016? Funny, I don't respect it either considering what's happened since. Parliament have passed laws since the EU referendum vote to confirm the UK are leaving the EU. The issue of non - binding is now irrelevant. You're not the only Sheffield Forum Member to have no respect for democracy. Edited January 8, 2019 by Lockdoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: Anna Soubry like every MP should be supporting Brexit because Leave won the democratic vote and every constituency have people who voted to leave the EU. complete rubbish, mps have their own opinions like everybody else, they are human after all. They also have to think what is good for their constituents and also the country...brexit is NOT good for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, melthebell said: complete rubbish, mps have their own opinions like everybody else, they are human after all. They also have to think what is good for their constituents and also the country...brexit is NOT good for that Mmm. They didnt seem to take that into account when they voted overwhelmingly to hold the referendum in the first place or when they later sanctioned the result and passed the triggering of A50 into law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, apelike said: Mmm. They didnt seem to take that into account when they voted overwhelmingly to hold the referendum in the first place or when they later sanctioned the result and passed the triggering of A50 into law. big words from idiot politicians, at the end of the day most know it will cripple us economically and so not many actually want a full on brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, apelike said: Mmm. They didnt seem to take that into account when they voted overwhelmingly to hold the referendum in the first place or when they later sanctioned the result and passed the triggering of A50 into law. None of that should automatically prejudice what comes later. You don’t crash a car into a wall with your family inside because somebody told you they wanted you to do it, especially if you have a set of fully working brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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