Obelix Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 not really, driving is a skill getting somewhere in a reasonable time is a priority, cyclists hinder this and as such i give the minimum i consider safe and make good progress. I had someone thinking similar a few weeks ago.. They stuffed most of their expensive car into my towbar when I braked because I couldnt get round a cyclist safely. Such a shame..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If your on your own in the car. your 5 foot from the kerb can you give me any reason at all why a cyclist on hi own should not also be 5 foot from the kerb? do you have a greater right to that 5 foot spot your arse is sitting than the guy sitting on the bike in the same spot? Well he drives everywhere, his arse is probably about 3 ft wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Well he drives everywhere, his arse is probably about 3 ft wide I need a keyboard that is proof against coffee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moon Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If your on your own in the car. your 5 foot from the kerb can you give me any reason at all why a cyclist on hi own should not also be 5 foot from the kerb? do you have a greater right to that 5 foot spot your arse is sitting than the guy sitting on the bike in the same spot? Because in normal traffic flow the cyclist is a slower moving road user and so the onus ought to be on them to allow the traffic to pass them because otherwise all the traffic potentially ends up traveling in slow procession behind the cyclist. For the record I'm a work commuting cyclist myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Because in normal traffic flow the cyclist is a slower moving road user and so the onus ought to be on them to allow the traffic to pass them because otherwise all the traffic potentially ends up traveling in slow procession behind the cyclist. For the record I'm a work commuting cyclist myself. Except in reality, traffic can generally overtake safely by just waiting for a brief time until there is space to move well into the opposite carriageway. For the record I'm a work commuting cyclist myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moon Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Except in reality, traffic can generally overtake safely by just waiting for a brief time until there is space to move well into the opposite carriageway. For the record I'm a work commuting cyclist myself. If a cyclist was going along, say, Holme Lane, 5 foot from the kerb at around 8am, traffic behind him will not be a able to move into the opposite side of the road to pass him as its usually solidly busy both directions at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If a cyclist was going along, say, Holme Lane, 5 foot from the kerb at around 8am, traffic behind him will not be a able to move into the opposite side of the road to pass him as its usually solidly busy both directions at that time. At 8am on roads which are "usually solidly busy" the cyclist will be trying to overtake the car which is slowing them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moon Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 At 8am on roads which are "usually solidly busy" the cyclist will be trying to overtake the car which is slowing them down. If the traffic was at a standstill sure, but generally it flows but can be busy both directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 If a cyclist was going along, say, Holme Lane, 5 foot from the kerb at around 8am, traffic behind him will not be a able to move into the opposite side of the road to pass him as its usually solidly busy both directions at that time. Holme Lane, great example. I cross it at a right angle, but I can see the queuing cars, there's no way a car is faster down Holme Lane in the morning traffic than a cycle is. And it quite clearly proves that the cars are causing congestion. If they were all replaced by cyclists and bikes then the congestion wouldn't even exist. ---------- Post added 13-07-2018 at 07:41 ---------- you clearly cant read i said on the whole they dont hinder but our hold ups are usually caused by others, of course cars cause holdups but if the road system was better it would be easier. i call BS on your 40 mins to manc airport unless you were speeding and left from glossop or you were on a motorcyle. i do Manchester and manchester airport most weeks at best its 1 our 30 from suburbs of Sheffield, i have tried all ways. ---------- Post added 12-07-2018 at 15:43 ---------- yeah yeah yeah yawn! Yawn yawn, you're a terrible driver and when given the evidence you're going to ignore it. I hope you don't kill someone, but you sound like a danger. It's definitely not 1:30 at best to Manc airport. Takes me 1:10 from Wadsley if I'm going at 0400 as I do several times a year. Admittedly I will break the speed limit a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On my way home today (6.30 p.m.) I kept pace with a taxi all the way from the centre of town to Burngreave. It wasn't the cyclists holding him back, it was the other vehicles and red lights (which I also stopped at, I should point out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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