Living beyond our means, or just poverty?

[kidley]

Indeed. Isn't it rather beside the point though? People seem to be using this kind of stuff to suggest a) that poverty doesn't exist

b) that if it does, it's the fault of the poor.

 

Both a) and b) are manifestly untrue.

 

If you dont travel a great deal you may have seen benefit street on tv, obese parents full of tattoos and smoking there heads off and, complaing society does not give them enough money. if you need this proving have a walk round S5 and woodthorpe.

[Anna B]

Piece on News about a build up of corpses in mortuary facilities, because people can't afford to bury their dead. (Funeral costs average £4,000 apparently.)

 

I was under the impression the Council offered help to those who needed it for funeral costs. Even 'pauper's funerals.' Has this stopped?

 

And why are funeral costs rising?

[tinfoilhat]

Piece on News about a build up of corpses in mortuary facilities, because people can't afford to bury their dead. (Funeral costs average £4,000 apparently.)

 

I was under the impression the Council offered help to those who needed it for funeral costs. Even 'pauper's funerals.' Has this stopped?

 

And why are funeral costs rising?

 

Really? You don't know why private enterprises are putting their costs up?

 

In no order of preference:

 

Wages rises

Pensions rises

Business rates

Rent rises

Fuel costs (litre of diesel is pushing £1.25 a litre plus)

[Anna B]

Really? You don't know why private enterprises are putting their costs up?

 

In no order of preference:

 

Wages rises

Pensions rises

Business rates

Rent rises

Fuel costs (litre of diesel is pushing £1.25 a litre plus)

 

Not all wages are rising.

These are the one's who are getting left behind and struggling.

[tinfoilhat]

Not all wages are rising.

 

Fair dos. Just the other 4 then that absolutely are.

 

And minimum wage rises each and every year.

[Anna B]

But not enough to keep up with rising costs.

 

https://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/young-money/most-millennials-seen-worse-off-than-parents-despite-aptitude-study

 

http://washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/10-charts-show-much-worse-just-last-economic-crisis.html

[ECCOnoob]

Oh for hevens sake Anna get a grip with the basics. You know full well why funeral expenses have increased over the years just like everything else.

 

Wages form part of a businesses' overheads. Increase one element and it has an impact on everything else. That then has an impact on the overall costs of the goods or service supplied which in turn has an impact on the base costs of goods and services that other businesses are required to purchase to make / sell / provide their own product and services....

 

...that then has an impact on the total price us consumers have to pay for the goods and service we want to purchase. We consumers bemoan that we are not getting as much for our money and demand pay rises....

 

...round and round and round it goes.

 

As for millenials being "angry" - For what exactly?

 

The majority of millenials have had a better start in life with better financial support, benefits, healthcare, education, lifestyle choices, freedoms, scope to travel and advances in technology that those nasty evil greedy Baby Boomers could only dream of.

 

I think the real queston to be asked is what exactly has changed?

 

Is it really a dramatic distopian vision of even increasing "hardship" against our poor old young folk OR is it simply a disease of entitlement syndrome with a side dose of "unrealistic expectations"

 

The answers are far more complex than what will be set out in your (very carefully selected) opinion piece.

 

Its a very old saying that the only thing guaranteed in life is that you are going to die. Sensible people plan for it and prepare for it. Its that issue of taking responsibility again.

[Calahonda]

Oh for hevens sake Anna get a grip with the basics. You know full well why funeral expenses have increased over the years just like everything else.

 

Wages form part of a businesses' overheads. Increase one element and it has an impact on everything else. That then has an impact on the overall costs of the goods or service supplied which in turn has an impact on the base costs of goods and services that other businesses are required to purchase to make / sell / provide their own product and services....

 

...that then has an impact on the total price us consumers have to pay for the goods and service we want to purchase. We consumers bemoan that we are not getting as much for our money and demand pay rises....

 

...round and round and round it goes.

 

As for millenials being "angry" - For what exactly?

 

The majority of millenials have had a better start in life with better financial support, benefits, healthcare, education, lifestyle choices, freedoms, scope to travel and advances in technology that those nasty evil greedy Baby Boomers could only dream of.

 

I think the real queston to be asked is what exactly has changed?

 

Is it really a dramatic distopian vision of even increasing "hardship" against our poor old young folk OR is it simply a disease of entitlement syndrome with a side dose of "unrealistic expectations"

 

The answers are far more complex than what will be set out in your (very carefully selected) opinion piece.

 

Its a very old saying that the only thing guaranteed in life is that you are going to die. Sensible people plan for it and prepare for it. Its that issue of taking responsibility again.

 

Your last point is interesting, infact the playwright Alan Bennet classed is as the most important paradox ever, in that we will all die, but have to live together in the interim.

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[El Cid]

If you dont travel a great deal you may have seen benefit street on tv, obese parents full of tattoos and smoking there heads off and, complaing society does not give them enough money. if you need this proving have a walk round S5 and woodthorpe.

 

Many of the working younger generation are obese and covered in tattoos!

[kidley]

Many of the working younger generation are obese and covered in tattoos!

 

and many are alcoholics drug addicts and anti social people, whats your point? apart from one can pay for it and, the other expects some one els to pay for there extravagances.