What are your thoughts on the current rail strike?

[El Cid]

Mmm... how long before there's an accident or some such, and the excuse will be 'in this instance correct procedures were not followed, but lessons will be learned...'

 

What happens when the CCTV is faulty or it just gets knocked so it not filming the entire view of the doors?

 

---------- Post added 25-08-2018 at 20:14 ----------

 

There already has been and that's on trains with guards. Virgin Class 221/220? don't seem to detect when someone is standing in the doorway when they close...unless they fixed it.

 

A C Leach did a FOI request "details of accidents reported to 'Rail Accident Investigation Branch' which occurred at the Passenger/Train interface".

 

Although driver only trains currently only account for 30% of trains, there were more accidents involving a driver only train than a guard controlled train.

 

The responsibility of the -

 

Guard = 8

Driver only train = 10

Platform staff = 4

Train operator = 22

Driver = 5

 

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/passengertrain_interface_inciden

[alchresearch]

An interesting piece on guardless trains:

 

According to the RMT’s own report, in the last five years there have been ten accidents involving passengers getting on trains.

 

One of these was fatal. The death at James Street station in Liverpool happened when the guard on the platform, Christopher McGee, gave the train the all clear to depart despite the fact a passenger was still leaning against it. McGee was jailed for five years for manslaughter by gross negligence.

 

No fatalities occurred on the Driver Only Operation trains…

 

https://order-order.com/tag/driverless-trains/

 

 

As for the Merseyrail article someone posted above, as a regular user of their trains I can categorically state that most days you'll never even see a guard - they hide in their little room at the back of the train.

 

They never check tickets.

 

They don't interact with passengers.

 

They hide away if there's any trouble, such as drunk passengers, or people with feet or their dogs on seats.

 

The new trains will mean that their role will change and they'll have to do the above, and they don't like it.