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As far as I can see everyone seems to have plenty of money. All the roads are chock full of cars, every concert booked solid weeks in advance, restaurants so packed you have to make reservations, airports packed with people going on holiday, people queing up for lottery tickets and scratch cards, and spending a fortune down at Bramall Lane and Hillsborough, etc, etc.

 

But you never see the millions of people that can't afford these things! If you base your assumptions about society from all the people drinking champagne at the party you're going to think everyone's rich. The divide between those who can afford these things and those who can't is increasing massively.

 

I often come into Sheffield via Dore, Whirlow, Ecclesall and the other beautiful leafy suburbs on the west side of Sheffield, and am struck by the utter contrast with areas elsewhere in the city. It really is like entering a third world country in some parts of Sheffield.

 

I would seriously suggest anyone still doubting the lack of money in society to try a visit to the other side of town to see how the other half live. It's not pretty.

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I see the Archbishop of Canterbury is moaning about austerity and unfairness, not bad coming from a bloke who lives in a palace.

He could help out by selling off some of the property owned by the C of E and donating it to the poor, but that ain't going to happen.

It's hilarious how the moaning about austerity on here usually comes from those who are on here all day. Sympathising with the feckless and benefit breeders.

As been said on here before there's not many living in poverty in the U.K. Most can afford smart phones costing hundreds of quid, and plenty are still smoking, drinking and getting tattoos and body piercings.

The other year look north featured a food bank that was closing in Barnsley, most of the people there complaining were about four stone overweight

Virtually full employment, so a simple solution, try working for a living if you can't afford something. Of course I don't include the disabled in that comment.

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I see the Archbishop of Canterbury is moaning about austerity and unfairness, not bad coming from a bloke who lives in a palace.

He could help out by selling off some of the property owned by the C of E and donating it to the poor, but that ain't going to happen.

It's hilarious how the moaning about austerity on here usually comes from those who are on here all day. Sympathising with the feckless and benefit breeders.

As been said on here before there's not many living in poverty in the U.K. Most can afford smart phones costing hundreds of quid, and plenty are still smoking, drinking and getting tattoos and body piercings.

The other year look north featured a food bank that was closing in Barnsley, most of the people there complaining were about four stone overweight

Virtually full employment, so a simple solution, try working for a living if you can't afford something. Of course I don't include the disabled in that comment.

 

Actually, the Archbishop is just a co-writer of a the report written by the Institute for Public Policy Research. it is they who are saying these things.

 

They are suggesting Higher Capital gains tax, and taxes on dividends, netting up to £27 Billion a year, a £13 Billion a year Corporation tax hike, the creation of £186 Billion a year 'Citizen's Wealth Fund' by 2030, and getting Multinationals to pay their dues. (All more or less policies previously put forward by Jeremy Corbyn, just sayin'.)

 

They also want Inheritance tax to be replaced by a gift tax, where an individual would be able to receice £125,000 over their lifetime tax free, with any further gifts subject to tax.

 

We were looking for ideas, these sound OK to me.

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Is The Church recognised as a charity? If so does it pay tax?

No idea, but I don't see why it should be.

 

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Actually, the Archbishop is just a co-writer of a the report written by the Institute for Public Policy Research. it is they who are saying these things.

So why is his opinion any more valid than anyone else's? Especially so as he leads such a sheltered life.

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No idea, but I don't see why it should be.

 

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So why is his opinion any more valid than anyone else's? Especially so as he leads such a sheltered life.

 

He at least sees people from all walks of life, is a Christian and helps with charitable enterprises. But as I've said this isn't about him, it is a report from the Institute for Public Policy Research.

 

Why not discuss what they say instead of attacking the messenger.

 

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Due respect Anna but in that case I doubt you've seen the real third world.

 

I have actually, and the bits they show on TV are not always representative of the country as a whole. India for example has some phenominally rich areas. It's now the third richest country in the world, but you wouldn't know it looking at the slums. It's the gap between rich and poor that marks it out.

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