Climate Change thread

[El Cid]

Sea level rise is caused primarily by two factors related to global warming: the added water from melting ice sheets and glaciers, and the expansion of seawater as it warms. The first graph tracks the change in global sea level since 1993, as observed by satellites.

 

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

 

 

[Annie Bynnol]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

So no "The  Model!

 

Just any number of models that are "refined or ditched"at will.

 

It doesn't bode well for being able to predict the Earth's temperature in 2100, by a few tenths of a degree. 

 

So is which is the latest model, which needs to be "refined or ditched'?

Do not misquote me.

Or is it the just bad grammar?

Is this really a reply:

"So no "The  Model!

Just any number of models that are "refined or ditched"at will.

It doesn't bode well for being able to predict the Earth's temperature in 2100, by a few tenths of a degree. 

So is which is the latest model, which needs to be "refined or ditched'?"

 

You and the activists are as bad as each other- just opposite extremes. You want to stick to your political beliefs and your climate extremism fine, I'll sick to the science. 

One day make an effort to understand modelling in science which includes weaknesses, strengths and limitations, instead of being spoon fed dialogue to backup your beliefs by Michael Shellenberger -darling of the far-right.

 

 

[Annie Bynnol]

Michael Shellenberger does not talk about a "bell curve".

 

Even if he did mention This bit really does shows that you really do not understand:

"In any Bell Curve, there are ALWAYS extremes at both ends of the diagram".

That is blindingly obvious, but how does this apply to hurricanes?

There is not one 'bell curve' in his article.

Not quite sure why hurricanes making landfall in 2020 appear in a graph published in 2018?

 

This is the kind of comment such articles attract and you are promoting with your links:

"As I said above Nazism morphed into Ecofascism after WW2. And WEF, the Davos crowd, the Central Bank Psychopath Club-of-Rome Malthusian Parasites all promote Ecofascist Ideology or Religious Crackpotism. They are THE menace to humanity. And Mother Nature also. Sick, demented people."

 

As I said you stick with your extremists and I will follow the science.

 

 

[top4718]

12 hours ago, El Cid said:

Are any taxes voluntary?

The one scientific fact that people should look at when assessing climate change is sea level.

If the sea level is rising, something is causing that, or the land is shrinking.

Melting ice in the Antarctic and ice on land(mountain peaks) is causing sea levels to rise.

The sea level isn't rising, not at all.

[The_DADDY]

6 minutes ago, top4718 said:

The sea level isn't rising, not at all.

Yeah but.......Al Gore 🤪🤣

[top4718]

Just now, The_DADDY said:

Yeah but.......Al Gore 🤪🤣

Yeah, shouldn't we be under water by now according to his predictions 20 years ago, absolute nonsense. 🤣

[The_DADDY]

Just now, top4718 said:

Yeah, shouldn't we be under water by now according to his predictions 20 years ago, absolute nonsense. 🤣

Ah but at least Al made a tidy bundle of cash from it all bless his heart. Every cloud and all that  😁

[Guest sibon]

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

The sea level isn't rising, not at all.

Regular readers of this forum will be shocked 😮 

 

Shocked 😮 

 

Shocked 😮 

 

To learn that you are absolutely 180 degrees wrong about that.

[Annie Bynnol]

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

 Yeah, shouldn't we be under water by now according to his predictions 20 years ago, absolute nonsense.

 

 

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

The sea level isn't rising, not at all.

The sea level has changed and will continue to change due to a number of factors which have nothing to do with human activity.

Long before extremists like you and the climate activists existed peoples had observed and explained several coastal feature that are the result of local, regional and global sea level changes.

You extremists just want to play politics over one factor- the human effect.

Extremist views like "The sea level isn't rising, not at all." or inventing  comments like "Yeah, shouldn't we be under water by now according to his predictions 20 years ago, absolute nonsense." don't credit their author with much understanding.

 

 

[hauxwell]

10 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

Ah but at least Al made a tidy bundle of cash from it all bless his heart. Every cloud and all that  😁

It was in the news that he was paid thirty thousand pounds when he came to Sheffield to give a talk about climate change.  That was a number of years ago which would be worth a lot more today.