Longcol Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, trastrick said: No! Your directive to read post #1600 was directed to me! As for snowflake and dearie, you should see the profane stuff I've be called on here by the lockstep brigade! (couldn't even repeat it here, without losing my account!) Simply post links to them - shouldn't be hard.................................. Edited June 20, 2023 by Longcol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Longcol said: Simply post links to them - shouldn't be hard.................................. I don't take them that seriously! You've never noticed any profanity here? It's all part of the rough and tumble. But lately the perps have been a little more civil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 @trastrick I have certainly seen barely masked profanity from that renowned Leftie....Chekhov 🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 13 hours ago, RJRB said: @trastrick I have certainly seen barely masked profanity from that renowned Leftie....Chekhov 🤬 Ever seen "unmasked" profanity here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) First they came for the landlords And I did not speak out Because I was not a landlord Then they came for the homeowners And now I am in the crap To upgrade many houses (older ones in particular) to a C grade for an EPC could cost up to £25,000. It may not even be possible at all for some. As regards the law to force Landlords to upgrade their properties to grade C that is one of the reasons many landlords are selling up, the supply of rented accommodation is shrinking and rents are skyrocketing. Edited June 25, 2023 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Chekhov said: First they came for the landlords And I did not speak out Because I was not a landlord Then they came for the homeowners And now I am in the crap To upgrade many houses (older ones in particular) to a C grade for an EPC could cost up to £25,000. It may not even be possible at all for some. As regards the law to force Landlords to upgrade their properties to grade C that is one of the reasons many landlords are selling up, the supply of rented accommodation is shrinking and rents are skyrocketing. That's no problem at all to people who don't own spare property. Simple answer SELL IT. That will make little difference to the property pool because the new owners can still use or rent it out. You are not a bit bothered by the supply of accommodation or by rents skyrocketing. You are only bothered about what it will COST YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: That's no problem at all to people who don't own spare property. Simple answer SELL IT. That will make little difference to the property pool because the new owners can still use or rent it out. You are not a bit bothered by the supply of accommodation or by rents skyrocketing. You are only bothered about what it will COST YOU. Sounds like you have just discovered the mechanism that has driven humans for the past 300,000.000 years or so! Namely, "Enlightened Self Interest". Which has to be worked into any philosophy of a successful society! That's the hard bit! Edited June 25, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Chekhov said: First they came for the landlords And I did not speak out Because I was not a landlord Then they came for the homeowners And now I am in the crap To upgrade many houses (older ones in particular) to a C grade for an EPC could cost up to £25,000. It may not even be possible at all for some. As regards the law to force Landlords to upgrade their properties to grade C that is one of the reasons many landlords are selling up, the supply of rented accommodation is shrinking and rents are skyrocketing. Why are you quoting a potential cost of £25,000? I thought you could get an exemption if you could demonstrate that the necessary improvements would cost more than £3,500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Organgrinder said: That's no problem at all to people who don't own spare property. Simple answer SELL IT. That will make little difference to the property pool because the new owners can still use or rent it out. You are not a bit bothered by the supply of accommodation or by rents skyrocketing. You are only bothered about what it will COST YOU. As usual you have failed to understand the post. Some people who are not landlords (like you) might say fine let the landlords pay (even if it is unreasonable). But by 2035 it'll be all home owners. 2 hours ago, Carl said: Why are you quoting a potential cost of £25,000? I thought you could get an exemption if you could demonstrate that the necessary improvements would cost more than £3,500? I hear different things. Where have you read that ? But, even if there is a £3,500 max cost, how long before that gets "updated" ? Edited June 25, 2023 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chekhov said: As usual you have failed to understand the post. Some people who are not landlords (like you) might say fine let the landlords pay (even if it is unreasonable). But by 2035 it'll be all home owners. Why will it ? Please explain. We are home owners and already pay to keep our homes in a good and safe condition and fully expected that this would be necessary. If you are referring to the phasing out of Gas boilers, that will be an unfortunate necessity but boilers don't last for ever anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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