trastrick Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Annie Bynnol said: NSIDC on July 18th said: "Arctic sea ice extent continued its summer decline. Extent is below average but not as low as in recent summers. In the Antarctic, sea ice extent is currently at record low levels for this time of year." Below is graphic you should have used: NSIDC It shows the reduction in Sea Ice extent in the Arctic Spring between 1981/2010(grey) and and and the present day. The coloured lines cover the last 5 years. The dashed line the record year of 2012. "The graph (below) shows Arctic sea ice extent as of July 17, 2022, along with daily ice extent data for four previous years and the record low year. 2022 is shown in blue, 2021 in green, 2020 in orange, 2019 in brown, 2018 in magenta, and 2012 in dashed brown. The 1981 to 2010 median is in dark gray. The gray areas around the median line show the interquartile and interdecile ranges of the data." I have no problem with any satellite sourced DSIDC chart, including the one above. These are the most reliable observations we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) Good ol Donald Trump. Saying it like it is? https://fb.watch/ex0iz5fddL/ Edited July 27, 2022 by The_DADDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, The_DADDY said: Good ol Donald Trump. Saying it like it is? https://fb.watch/ex0iz5fddL/ The actual warming is not a hoax. The Earth's climate is gradually warming. According to the latest from NOAA it has warmed from -0.48 dgrees to +0.06 degrees. A total of +0.54 degrees over the 43 year NOAA satellite record. At this rate over 43 years, (0.013953 per year) by 2050 it would be 0.013953 degrees warmer than today. by 2100 it would be 1.088372 degrees warmer than today. "Catastrophic"? Depends on who you listen to. There is actually a net cooling since 1916 to 2022, in spite of a yearly increase in Global C02 levels. Will it continue? Depends on who you listen to! Edited July 27, 2022 by trastrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, trastrick said: The actual warming is not a hoax. The Earth's climate is gradually warming. According to the latest from NOAA it has warmed from -0.48 dgrees to +0.06 degrees. A total of +0.54 degrees over the 43 year NOAA satellite record. At this rate over 43 years, (0.013953 per year) by 2050 it would be 0.013953 degrees warmer than today. by 2100 it would be 1.088372 degrees warmer than today. "Catastrophic"? Depends on who you listen to. There is actually a net cooling since 1916 to 2022, in spite of a yearly increase in Global C02 levels. Will it continue? Depends on who you listen to! Totally agree that the warming is real but like convid it's been weaponised for financial gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) Just now, The_DADDY said: Totally agree that the warming is real but like convid it's been weaponised for financial gain. Aha! Politics 101 Follow the money! Edited July 27, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, trastrick said: The actual warming is not a hoax. The Earth's climate is gradually warming. According to the latest from NOAA it has warmed from -0.48 dgrees to +0.06 degrees. A total of +0.54 degrees over the 43 year NOAA satellite record. The NOAA does not appear to agree: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, but the rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade. That increase is not linear! Quote At this rate over 43 years, (0.013953 per year) by 2050 it would be 0.013953 degrees warmer than today. by 2100 it would be 1.088372 degrees warmer than today. Clearly, nope! Currently that rate of change isn't linear, it's increasing. Quote "Catastrophic"? Depends on who you listen to. There is actually a net cooling since 1916 to 2022, in spite of a yearly increase in Global C02 levels. As per link above, clearly nonsense. Edited July 27, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) Just now, Magilla said: The NOAA does not appear to agree: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, but the rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade. Clearly, nope! Even a linear increase as per the data from the NOAA shows a signifcantly higher increase. Currently that rate of change isn't linear, it's increasing. As per link above, clearly nonsense. Get up to date! Climate.gov "Highlights from Assessing the global climate in June 2022 Globally, June 2022 was the sixth-warmest June in the 143-year NOAA record. The year-to-date (January-June) global surface temperature was also the sixth warmest on (143 year) record". And. They didn't have a satellite record, back in 1880, so their "average" against which the data is plotted goes back to 1880. How reliable are global temperatures from 1880, when large swaths of the Earth were not explored, not even the North and South Poles? But I'm happy to leave you with your opinions on the matter. Have a nice day! Edited July 27, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, trastrick said: I have no problem with any satellite sourced DSIDC chart, including the one above. These are the most reliable observations we have. They are not. Sea Ice extent in the Arctic significantly exaggerates the impact of 'global warming' and this kind of data is loved by the what you called 'climate activists'. Satellites can accurately directly measure some feature like ice extent, and some of the variables that cause it like surface wind, surface current and temperature and several others continuously over time. Weather forecasters need data on the layers of the atmosphere and Climatologists need data throughout the oceans, satellites cannot directly measure these variables and are usually calibrated by other specialized instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, trastrick said: But I'm happy to leave you with your opinion on the matter. Yeah... as usual, you got it wrong! Failed to understand the data, and came to conclusions that bear no relation to reality! There has not been a "net cooling since 1916 to 2022"! Edited July 27, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Annie Bynnol said: They are not. Sea Ice extent in the Arctic significantly exaggerates the impact of 'global warming' and this kind of data is loved by the what you called 'climate activists'. Satellites can accurately directly measure some feature like ice extent, and some of the variables that cause it like surface wind, surface current and temperature and several others continuously over time. Weather forecasters need data on the layers of the atmosphere and Climatologists need data throughout the oceans, satellites cannot directly measure these variables and are usually calibrated by other specialized instruments. When you can come up with better technology than satellites, let me know. Politicians? farmers? fishermen? and their tall tales? Just now, Magilla said: Yeah... as usual, you got it wrong! Failed to understand the data, and came to conclusions that bear no relation to reality! There has not been a "net cooling since 1916 to 2022"! Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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