Climate Change thread

[nikki-red]

38 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

That could be a planet saver if it is true , and I sincerely hope that it is, BUT,   the date of that report is  APRIL 1st

There’s a lot of articles about it, from different dates 👍🏻

This is a more recent one 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S199668141630195X

 

Edited August 29, 2022 by nikki-red

[trastrick]

There are many solutions proposed to solve the "problem" of global warming, aka climate change aka extreme weather.

 

But the question of whether the slight warming we have experienced of the last 42 years is of satellite observations is "catastrophic". 0.36 degrees according to NOAA, and no net warming since 2016. is an existential problem, or will be in the near future, based on models and projections that are speculative, attracts no similar anaysis and debate among actual scientists.

 

It is accepted as fact, rather than projection.

 

Relying on theories often lead to the corollary of "scientists scratching their heads", or "scientists puzzled" when faced with subsequent actual observations.

 

Here's some "projections" obviosly not based on a rigorous analysis:

 

ELDER: Decades of alarmist climate-change forecasts

 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/elder-decades-of-alarmist-climate-change-forecasts

 

 

Edited August 29, 2022 by trastrick

[melthebell]

In other news a third of Pakistan is now under water.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62712301

[Dromedary]

11 minutes ago, melthebell said:

In other news a third of Pakistan is now under water.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62712301

Although that is sad it's debatable whether it is actually linked to climate change. Pakistan has a long history of flooding and the worst to date were the floods in 2010 and they have all followed a similar pattern due to the heavy monsoon rains.

 

The trouble is they have not prepared enough for flooding. A quote from euronews.com

 

Pakistan's PM Shahbaz Sharif said that 33 million people had been impacted by the floods - about 15% of Pakistan's whole population - and blamed "the horrors of climate change" for the natural disaster. 

However that is only part of the picture. Construction in flood-prone areas, endemic corruption, lack of investment in vital infrastructure, scant regard for the environment and poor preparedness for natural disasters also exacerbate the problems in Pakistan when flooding happens. 

[melthebell]

1 minute ago, Dromedary said:

Although that is sad it's debatable whether it is actually linked to climate change. Pakistan has a long history of flooding and the worst to date were the floods in 2010 and they have all followed a similar pattern due to the heavy monsoon rains.

 

The trouble is they have not prepared enough for flooding. A quote from euronews.com

 

Pakistan's PM Shahbaz Sharif said that 33 million people had been impacted by the floods - about 15% of Pakistan's whole population - and blamed "the horrors of climate change" for the natural disaster. 

However that is only part of the picture. Construction in flood-prone areas, endemic corruption, lack of investment in vital infrastructure, scant regard for the environment and poor preparedness for natural disasters also exacerbate the problems in Pakistan when flooding happens. 

but

 

are they becoming more extreme?

is more of Pakistan under water than usual / last time?

[Dromedary]

6 hours ago, melthebell said:

but

 

are they becoming more extreme?

Too early to say. When this one subsides only then it can be compared to the past.

 

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is more of Pakistan under water than usual / last time?

It's not clear and what I put in bold may also be a contributing factor. Saying it's down to climate change is very simplistic in my view as people just want to use the blame game as usual to justify the situation as not being partly their fault.

Edited August 30, 2022 by Dromedary

[The_DADDY]

David Bellamy was spot on about this subject.

I used to love watching David on TV, I wonder what happed to him🤔

 

Just Googled it.

He died 😪

He was still right though.

Edited August 30, 2022 by The_DADDY

[El Cid]

13 hours ago, Dromedary said:

Although that is sad it's debatable whether it is actually linked to climate change. Pakistan has a long history of flooding and the worst to date were the floods in 2010 and they have all followed a similar pattern due to the heavy monsoon rains.

Climate change predicts more severe weather and more precipitation. Which fits with the flooding, but only half fits with the world's baking heat and lack of rain. Maybe a few weeks and we will be flooded, but we need more rain.

[Chekhov]

Funny how these climate change doomsters always come up with a negatives......

If the world is warming up (irrespective of if it's man made or, more pertinently if we can do anything about it, practically speaking) there has got to be some positives. With extremely high energy bills (get used to that with nett zero coming up) a warmer winter this year would be nice.....

Edited August 30, 2022 by Chekhov

[trastrick]

16 hours ago, melthebell said:

In other news a third of Pakistan is now under water.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62712301

What is seen as a doomsday scenario by the chicken littles, rational humans see it as a problem still to be solved. A challenge.

 

Populations living on or beside historic flood plain lands need to be dealt with by political leadership and engineering solutions.

 

Imagine if all that powerful water, could be dammed to provide cheap hydro electricity!

 

But that takes political leadership and will, that is none existent in most of the World. Their politicians are just happy to take Western humanitarian aid every year, with no strings attached.