woodmally Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 No one has said that. Have you actually read any of this thread ? Well maybe no one has said that but thats what people keep banging on about using the term austerity to blame everything. Is there nothing that corbynites will not blame austerity on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well maybe no one has said that but thats what people keep banging on about using the term austerity to blame everything. Is there nothing that corbynites will not blame austerity on? Do you think austerity is good for anyone apart from the seriously wealthy, and if so, who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well maybe no one has said that but thats what people keep banging on about using the term austerity to blame everything. Is there nothing that corbynites will not blame austerity on? It goes back much further than the current government. You’re over simplifying a complex issue around the actions of young people. No one is blaming everything on that. I don’t understand what Jeremy Corbyn has to do with it either. You can blame parents or compare previous generations but you have to consider how society impacts people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 It goes back much further than the current government. You’re over simplifying a complex issue around the actions of young people. No one is blaming everything on that. I don’t understand what Jeremy Corbyn has to do with it either. You can blame parents or compare previous generations but you have to consider how society impacts people. Corbyn and his group are the ones blaming austerity on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Corbyn and his group are the ones blaming austerity on everything. For everything, not on. I'll repeat a question asked earlier - who does austerity actually help, apart from the seriously wealthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Do you think austerity is good for anyone apart from the seriously wealthy, and if so, who? 1) Austerity isn't great but it's necessary to solve the debt we are in right now. How much debt is the UK in? 2) It can't be used to blame some thugs stabbing other thugs. These kids have mobile phones etc. They don't go around stabbing people because they have ran out of food or no food banks in the area. They stab because they are thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1) Austerity isn't great but it's necessary to solve the debt we are in right now. How much debt is the UK in? 2) It can't be used to blame some thugs stabbing other thugs. These kids have mobile phones etc. They don't go around stabbing people because they have ran out of food or no food banks in the area. They stab because they are thugs. Hasn't worked then has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1) Austerity isn't great but it's necessary to solve the debt we are in right now. How much debt is the UK in? 2) It can't be used to blame some thugs stabbing other thugs. These kids have mobile phones etc. They don't go around stabbing people because they have ran out of food or no food banks in the area. They stab because they are thugs. 1) Various european countries have proven this to be untrue by not pursuing austerity measures, having much better GDP growth and paying down the level of national debt that way. 2) it's not individual poverty causing it, perhaps not. But educational poverty, lack of facilities and youth outreach schemes, societal things, bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2) it's not individual poverty causing it, perhaps not. But educational poverty, lack of facilities and youth outreach schemes, societal things, bigger picture. I don't buy that. Today's youth have far more than we had, and access to far more resources online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Personally I prefer the lead hypothesis, unfortunately that makes it impossible to do anything in the short term to address the problem as the lead time is approx 2 decades. That said, if we banned leaded petrol in 2000, then nobody under 18 today should have been exposed to lead in petrol fumes, so the rate of violent crime should be already tailing off amongst that age group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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