woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Thread title should be 'Legal' obligation. Not talking about minor offences here. I was listening to Radio 2 the other day, and they were talking about abuse of kids at childrens homes and by monks at religious schools / homes. It turns out that some the heads / managers of these places were fully aware, and even witnessed, these things happening, but did nothing. A lawyer on the program clarified the no-one is obliged to report a crime. That also includes people in positions of trust and positions of care. So, these horrendous crimes were going on in full knowledge of the senior staff, and they have commited no crime by allowing it to continue. How can that be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Did you watch the programme Lawless Britain the other night on Channel 4 Dispatches? If not look on line for it and watch, it was very enlightening how the police are screening crime and not investigating some crimes. Not just low level crime but sex crimes and assaults are getting screened out. Hampshire screened out 56% of theft crimes, Bedfordshire dropped almost 70% of non payment of fuel cases while Staffordshire screened out 64% of vehicle crime. So it is understandable that some people don't report crimes, when the police are not investigating. It is not all down to the police though with the loss of something like 22000 police offices, thanks to our Government who said they were the party of law and order. Edited October 10, 2018 by iansheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Did you watch the programme Lawless Britain the other night on Channel 4 Dispatches? If not look on line for it and watch, it was very enlightening how the police are screening crime and not investigating some crimes. Not just low level crime but sex crimes and assaults are getting screened out. Hampshire screened out 56% of theft crimes, Bedfordshire dropped almost 70% of non payment of fuel cases while Staffordshire screened out 64% of vehicle crime. So it is understandable that some people don't report crimes, when the police are not investigating. It is not all down to the police though with the loss of something like 22000 police offices, thanks to our Government who said they were the party of law and order. I agree all those things are a sad reflection of how they are handling things, (or having to). I was more talking about the reporting by people in positions of trust. I would have imagined they would be in very serious legal trouble, and should be jailed, so shocke dthat they hadn't even commited an offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Is failure to report something not actually a form of aiding and abetting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewalk Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If the Police are doing this what does this say about a civilised society ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Thread title should be 'Legal' obligation. Not talking about minor offences here. I was listening to Radio 2 the other day, and they were talking about abuse of kids at childrens homes and by monks at religious schools / homes. It turns out that some the heads / managers of these places were fully aware, and even witnessed, these things happening, but did nothing. A lawyer on the program clarified the no-one is obliged to report a crime. That also includes people in positions of trust and positions of care. So, these horrendous crimes were going on in full knowledge of the senior staff, and they have commited no crime by allowing it to continue. How can that be right? As an additional note, there is an offence called misprision of treason - which specifically states that if you know of treason being plotted you must inform the authorities. Along with the various requirements to report terrorism offences these are the only times in UK law you must report a crime if you know about it - everything else you can just walk on by... Compare that to France where you are obliged by law to render assistance if needed in say the case of car accident and to report if know, two totally opposite ends of the spectrum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Brick Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 It is estimated that over 65% of violent sexual offences are not reported which leaves the door open for needless victims. Reporting crime could be more than a moral obligation and I would welcome a national DNA database for everyone. Not all soldiers wear green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'd say that it IS a moral obligation, it's just apparently not a legal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromedary Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 It is estimated that over 65% of violent sexual offences are not reported which leaves the door open for needless victims. Reporting crime could be more than a moral obligation and I would welcome a national DNA database for everyone. Not all soldiers wear green. Estimating the unknown must be tricky and how would a DNA database help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medusa Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Is failure to report something not actually a form of aiding and abetting? One would logically say that it's either aiding and abetting, accessory or conspiracy, and it may extend to perverting the course of justice. Particularly with things like sex crimes, if you witness it and don't report it then you really have no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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