The Royal Family Discussion Thread

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Has been correctly pointed out,  peasents versus nobs and gentry doused in self interest in mind had the upperhand, the peasents are different these days. 

Are they? I'm not sure about that. All through history the nobs have been in charge. The labour party is less than a hundred years old and has been out of power most of the time, which means even when the working man has someone fighting his corner he is so subservient he doesn't trust them and votes for what he knows instead. The Tories/ nobs are brilliant at exploiting that. They should be, they've had centuries of practise.

[PRESLEY]

We live in the real modern world with Techno ect,  The days of the court jester are long gone along with jousting and putting people in stocks and I put the Royals in the same bracket,  lets move on and put these lot in the history books,  they are really  just one big embarrasment to this Country,  the rest of the world are having a right laugh at this Country.  .  

[crookesey]

11 hours ago, Anna B said:

Mmmm, not sure they (the people) decided this,  more like the nobs and landed gentry with most to lose. 

As usual one lot of wealthy self interest was replaced by another lot of wealthy self interest who had attained more power.

 

It was over another 200 years before ordinary men got a say in anything, with a democratic vote, (and women even longer.) Oliver Cromwell did some good for the common man, but got a bad press from the nobs who despised him for obvious reasons, villified him, and told the people what they wanted. Cromwell was the Jeremy Corbyn of his day.

Charles classed the royalty as being divine, whatamistakatomaka.

[trastrick]

For the entire history of mankind the strong have dominated the weak.

 

Rise up and revolt against them with superior numbers, and you'll be incited and led by the next generation of the ever opportunistic  power hungry class.

 

Those symbols of power, uniforms, palaces and mansions, with the accompanying orbs, septres and chains of office, medals and awards, will always be occupied, just by different tenants.

 

The fledgling democracies that do exist, allow at least a limited choice of overseer.

 

Monarch, Generalissimo, Religious Leader, Capitalist, Statist Bureaucrat, or some unholy combination of same.

 

Of all the above, these days, the statist bureaucrat has , by far, the easiest route to real power.

 

Protect your precious vote, at all costs!

 

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by trastrick

[cuttsie]

5 hours ago, trastrick said:

For the entire history of mankind the strong have dominated the weak.

 

Rise up and revolt against them with superior numbers, and you'll be incited and led by the next generation of the ever opportunistic  power hungry class.

 

Those symbols of power, uniforms, palaces and mansions, with the accompanying orbs, septres and chains of office, medals and awards, will always be occupied, just by different tenants.

 

The fledgling democracies that do exist, allow at least a limited choice of overseer.

 

Monarch, Generalissimo, Religious Leader, Capitalist, Statist Bureaucrat, or some unholy combination of same.

 

Of all the above, these days, the statist bureaucrat has , by far, the easiest route to real power.

 

Protect your precious vote, at all costs!

 

 

Bloody eck trastrick , all that out of Prince Edwards secondary modern . Tha must have been in class A .

[Anna B]

19 hours ago, crookesey said:

Charles classed the royalty as being divine, whatamistakatomaka.

Royalty still think they rule by divine right, at least our Lizzie does. They have to believe it because there's no  earthly reason why they should be entitled to the throne.

[crookesey]

4 hours ago, Anna B said:

Royalty still think they rule by divine right, at least our Lizzie does. They have to believe it because there's no  earthly reason why they should be entitled to the throne.

The Russians replaced their brutality murdered royal family with a different autocratic none elected shambles of a leadership, we must take great care not to do similar, if we are ever given the opportunity.

 

[hauxwell]

1 hour ago, crookesey said:

The Russians replaced their brutality murdered royal family with a different autocratic none elected shambles of a leadership, we must take great care not to do similar, if we are ever given the opportunity.

 

Well I’m not going to argue with that.  I agree with you.

[Bargepole23]

On 10/01/2022 at 10:29, West 77 said:

There is no demand for a referendum regarding the monarchy.  No political party supports holding such a referendum.  It took decades to get a referendum regarding out country's membership of the EU when there was a huge demand for one.  If you want a referendum about the monarchy then I suggest you form your own political party like what UKIP did and put in decades of hard work to achieve your goal.

 

BTW Prince Andrew is an innocent man.

Innocent or not, he now has a case to answer.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59871514

[Guest makapaka]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

You do know this is a civil case?  You do know that nobody in the UK can be extradited to a foreign country to answer a civil case?

 

Everyone including Prince Andrew is innocent until proven guilty.   A civil case is not the same as a criminal case which is why the media and people can get away with making all sorts of comments and assumptions to discredit an individual.

Hi Liz.