blackydog Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, alandrea0 said: There would be many more anti royalists if the British public hadn't been brainwashed by the royalist media and if they knew the truth behind how the monarchy operate and how they make sure no one interferes with their way of life. Princess Diana suffered at the hands of the monarchy and Harry has been forced out... The royalists have done a great job of silencing all republicans to protect the royal family. Royalists just turn a blind eye to their shenanigans though. The evidence is out there, but they just don't want to see it. This morning I have been refreshing my memory, with the clandestine way they work. Charles and the Duchy and the freehold exemptions. The queen's consent. How the family are allowed to hide their wealth, by vetting proposed laws before they are approved. Charles and his affair with Camila. Charles promotes his eco attributes, but has less trees on his Duchy than any other landowners. Balmoral is completely artificial due to being managed as a shooting estate. They really shouldn't be anywhere near Head of State. It's an absolute scandal. Charles in my opinion will have a profoundly negative effect on the monarchy. His arrogance will be his downfall. I hope as a republican, we let him shoot himself in the foot. The monarchy would have been in much better hands with William, who knows how to keep his head down, same as the queen pretty much did. Charles doesn't possess that quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alandrea0 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Here's a question for all the staunch royalists who love the Monarchy... It was rumoured that Princess Diana was going to marry and have a baby to Dodi Fayed a Muslim. If that was true, that would have meant that the future British King "William" would have a Muslim Stepfather.. Do all royalists really think that the monarchy would allow that to happen? I don't think so. That's why they had to do something to prevent it from happening. Hence the reason they both died in an accident. Again they have done a good job of covering up the truth and made sure anyone who knows the truth have been silenced. I really liked Diana, she was a lovely caring and loving person who didn't deserve to die like that, and now it really angers me that Charles who probably authorised that accident to happen is now the King... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackydog Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, alandrea0 said: Here's a question for all the staunch royalists who love the Monarchy... It was rumoured that Princess Diana was going to marry and have a baby to Dodi Fayed a Muslim. If that was true, that would have meant that the future British King "William" would have a Muslim Stepfather.. Do all royalists really think that the monarchy would allow that to happen? I don't think so. That's why they had to do something to prevent it from happening. Hence the reason they both died in an accident. Again they have done a good job of covering up the truth and made sure anyone who knows the truth have been silenced. I really liked Diana, she was a lovely caring and loving person who didn't deserve to die like that, and now it really angers me that Charles who probably authorised that accident to happen is now the King... Good luck with this one (:)) Edited September 16, 2022 by blackydog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Really good article in the Guardian by an expert in crowd behaviour that looks over the reasons why so many people are queuing to see the coffin, and contradicts the media narrative about the country in mourning: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/15/crowd-behaviour-london-mourning-queen Edited September 16, 2022 by Mister M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, alandrea0 said: There would be many more anti royalists if the British public hadn't been brainwashed by the royalist media and if they knew the truth behind how the monarchy operate and how they make sure no one interferes with their way of life. Princess Diana suffered at the hands of the monarchy and Harry has been forced out... The royalists have done a great job of silencing all republicans to protect the royal family. Yeah, they bang on about service; but its a lot more to do with preservation of the hierarchical nature of our society. King at the top, hangers on, princes, dukes, lords, ladies; all desperate to keep enjoying the privileges their position within the hierarchy brings them. All people have innate dignity and value; you’re born with it, it has nothing to do with your position in society; and we should esteem each other on the basis of what we do, and the nature of our characters; not the accident of our birth. Edited September 16, 2022 by Waldo Corrected incorrect auto-correction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, HumbleNarrator said: Forced out of what? he still trades off his royal connection, without that he'd be nothing and he knows it. And it can only be a matter of time before his true parentage is determined, whatever it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, harvey19 said: It is heart warming to see the love and respect being demonstrated by the majority of the world. It is heart warming to see the magnificent way the armed forces and others have performed their duties. It is sad that at this time a few people have to show their disrespect and lack of loyalty, but it demonstrates how few people there are with such an outlook. You may find you’re getting a distorted view of things (public opinion of royalty); the media are only echoing positive views of royalty. As for loyalty; I’m loyal to my principles and to my fellow man; I’m not loyal to a hierarchy that seemingly only serves to keep the privileged privileged; and the suppressed suppressed. Edited September 16, 2022 by Waldo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Waldo said: You may find you’re getting a distorted view of things (public opinion of royalty); the media are only echoing positive views of royalty. As for loyalty; I’m loyal to my principles and to my fellow man; I’m not loyal to a hierarchy that seemingly only serves to keep the privileged privileged; and the suppressed suppressed. I believe I am right in thinking the majority of the country support The Monarchy. Would you serve in the armed forces and serve King and Country if necessary ? Edited September 16, 2022 by harvey19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alandrea0 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, blackydog said: Royalists just turn a blind eye to their shenanigans though. The evidence is out there, but they just don't want to see it. This morning I have been refreshing my memory, with the clandestine way they work. Charles and the Duchy and the freehold exemptions. The queen's consent. How the family are allowed to hide their wealth, by vetting proposed laws before they are approved. Charles and his affair with Camila. Charles promotes his eco attributes, but has less trees on his Duchy than any other landowners. Balmoral is completely artificial due to being managed as a shooting estate. They really shouldn't be anywhere near Head of State. It's an absolute scandal. Charles in my opinion will have a profoundly negative effect on the monarchy. His arrogance will be his downfall. I hope as a republican, we let him shoot himself in the foot. The monarchy would have been in much better hands with William, who knows how to keep his head down, same as the queen pretty much did. Charles doesn't possess that quality. William might come across a more likeable and caring person, but in my opinion he is no different to Charles. William must know how and why is Mother died in that accident but yet he remains loyal to his father. If William loved is mother Diana so much and had any decency in him he would disown is father and have nothing to do with the Monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackydog Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, harvey19 said: I believe I am right in thinking the majority of the country support The Monarchy. If there was a war would you volunteer tight for your King and Country ? Do you do any research before posting? As it happens you are right but you could check and not "think". I getting this all the time with people who think (hence think they know) only to prove them incorrect. They are correct only until proved wrong. The latest YouGov poll shows that 62% wanted to retain the monarchy and 22% wanted to get rid, leaving a 16% of don't knows. However if you break it down the young un's (and these are what matters) are about level at just over 30% for each camp. If there was a war I would fight to protect my family, and this mess of a country. I would not be showing any allegiance to royalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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