Janus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I feel it is very decent of the guy. A lot of people would want vengeance. From Sheffield Star: But Ross said the thief is only a teenager and*if he is prepared to admit his actions and work off the cost of the repairs to the roof which need to be carried out after the break-in, he will ‘help*him turn his life around’. He said: “The name I have is of a teenager of about 16 or 17 and I know where he lives, but I have given him three days to admit what he did and to agree to work off the cost of the roof repairs that need to be paid for after he broke-in. “If he comes forward the that will be the end of it because although he is old enough to know right from wrong he is young enough to turn his life around.” https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-gym-owner-ross-burkinshaw-gives-thief-three-days-to-admit-break-in-1-9411586 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelworker Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I'm not in favour of criminals and victims getting together to negotiate their own justice. It's a very slippery slope. You end up with the rich paying off victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unisol Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 You end up with the rich paying off victims. Sorry don’t know what you mean by that Please could you elaborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I'm not in favour of criminals and victims getting together to negotiate their own justice. It's a very slippery slope. You end up with the rich paying off victims. I think you've misunderstood. Restorative justice involves the offender admitting their responsibilty, acknowledging the damage and hurt caused and working with the victim to make amends. What you are describing is offenders buying silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 well done i say,it will or could prevent him from a criminal record,which could affect his future life,i hope it all works out for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelworker Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I think you've misunderstood. Restorative justice involves the offender admitting their responsibilty, acknowledging the damage and hurt caused and working with the victim to make amends. What you are describing is offenders buying silence. It's exactly the same thing which is why I said it was a slippery slope. How is someone working to pay off the roof costs (which could be substantial), any different to someone paying the victim some money to cover the costs. The courts and justice system should decide what the punishment is. If the gym owner successfully negotiates his own justice with the criminal instead of prosecuting, will he take responsibility if the criminal breaks into another building next month, doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince al Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Let some of the clientele go round and ask him why he thinks it's acceptable to be disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I think you've misunderstood. Restorative justice involves the offender admitting their responsibilty, acknowledging the damage and hurt caused and working with the victim to make amends. What you are describing is offenders buying silence. Ok in theory not in practice, its something most people wouldn't want, most would want them punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscotti Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 It's exactly the same thing which is why I said it was a slippery slope. How is someone working to pay off the roof costs (which could be substantial), any different to someone paying the victim some money to cover the costs. The courts and justice system should decide what the punishment is. If the gym owner successfully negotiates his own justice with the criminal instead of prosecuting, will he take responsibility if the criminal breaks into another building next month, doubt it. I think that you’ve put your brain on the wrong way today. There is all the difference in the world between someone who breaks the law and then buys silence, and someone who is a victim of crime and then negotiates restitution. Have a think about the difference between victim and perpetrator. Then you might get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelworker Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I think that you’ve put your brain on the wrong way today. There is all the difference in the world between someone who breaks the law and then buys silence, and someone who is a victim of crime and then negotiates restitution. Have a think about the difference between victim and perpetrator. Then you might get it. Go ahead and explain what the difference is instead of pointless insults. I can only assume you think there's some significant difference between the victim contacting the criminal and naming his price to be bought off, and the criminal contacting the victim and asking what he wants to keep quiet. There isn't. If this justice ideal became widespread thieves would pay the costs on the slim occasions they're caught and bank the profits when they're not, I imagine a lot more would take up the trade. Is that what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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