Second referendum time? SF Poll

[truman]

17 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

After reading many posts on here, it's clear that your little snippet is a regular one used by one whom is slightly miffed at what he or she is reading, and rather than popping in some constructive dialogue, prefers to resort to playground tactics. Not going to work I'm afraid. If you can't smell whats being shovelled then maybe you'd be better off thinking outside the box.

It's pretty much the same as it was two years ago. The consequences you speak of are those made by spin doctors in power to attempt to detail the process. Can you honestly believe that the UK would be as heavily sanctioned as believed by countries whose very economies rely on their exports to the UK? It really does not take an idiot to work out that you do not bite the hand that feeds you, and there is not one European country that would stand back and agree to the EU,s demands on our exit. Business runs this world, not governments and the sooner this s understood, the better. That's the brave new world chum.

We account for 10% of EU exports ..they are 45% of ours.....who has the most to lose?

Edited December 7, 2018 by truman

[woodview]

4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

How do you work that out?

 

25% of the British public voted to leave (37.4% of the electorate, if that is how you would prefer to define 'the public')

 

That's why this thing is such a mess. The majority of the public don't want it.

Are you proposing that toddlers should vote then?

However ridiculuosly you frame it, an even lower percentage voted to Remain.

[BrexitGuy]

3 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

How do you work that out?

 

25% of the British public voted to leave (37.4% of the electorate, if that is how you would prefer to define 'the public')

 

That's why this thing is such a mess. The majority of the public don't want it.

I'm afraid that train has left the station. On the day of the referendum, the majority vote to leave. If you are claiming that there were others sat at home who also wanted to remain, can you explain where they were? For such an important vote on Britain's future, where were they? And as for the people who did think about Britain's future, where were they? Oh yes, they were at the polls placing their vote. No excuse and no bleating that the majority of the public didn't want it. The majority DID want it, and turned out to express that view. You cannot change that for your own personal desire.

[apelike]

12 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

25% of the British public voted to leave (37.4% of the electorate, if that is how you would prefer to define 'the public')

 

That's why this thing is such a mess. The majority of the public don't want it.

Again I will point out that the majority of the public were never asked and those that were (the electorate) and took part in the "public" referendum voted to leave with a greater majority than those that wanted to stay.

Edited December 7, 2018 by apelike

[BrexitGuy]

9 minutes ago, truman said:

We account for 10% of EU exports ..they are 45% of ours.....who has the most to lose?

This is the biggest fear of your average remoaner. It matters not a jot what percentage of what goes to whom. The bare bones are what the middle man takes, which is in essence the EU. Take that out of the equation and that breeds new life to trade, something that the Swiss know all about. Free trade is it's name, without tariff to fund a pointless hierarchy.

[melthebell]

Just now, BrexitGuy said:

This is the biggest fear of your average remoaner. It matters not a jot what percentage of what goes to whom. The bare bones are what the middle man takes, which is in essence the EU. Take that out of the equation and that breeds new life to trade, something that the Swiss know all about. Free trade is it's name, without tariff to fund a pointless hierarchy.

so we go to the WTO? like most brextremists want...arent they a middle man?

[BrexitGuy]

1 minute ago, melthebell said:

so we go to the WTO? like most brextremists want...arent they a middle man?

Not quite. The WTO is funded by member donations, not value contribution. Much better and fairer system.

[Top Cats Hat]

34 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

If you are claiming that there were others sat at home who also wanted to remain, can you explain where they were? 

It is irrelevant who did or didn't vote or where they were on the day. Constantly referring to Brexit as the 'will of the people'  when less than 38% of those eligible to vote bothered to support it, is clearly deluded.

[apelike]

7 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

It is irrelevant who did or didn't vote or where they were on the day. Constantly referring to Brexit as the 'will of the people'  when less than 38% of those eligible to vote bothered to support it, is clearly deluded.

But the numbers were still greater than the 34.7% who wanted to remain and that is all that matters in a democratic vote. Not accepting the democratic outcome because it does not meet your requirements is very deluded.

Edited December 7, 2018 by apelike

[RollingJ]

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