Second referendum time? SF Poll

[Magilla]

13 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

There is a modern misconception that immigrants are all doctors, nurses and support staff. They are not.

A great many are though.

 

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However there are a huge number of them who do nothing. Certain areas of Sheffield are teeming with foreign nationals who don't do anything but claim benefits and housing.

Again, misinformation.

 

We are not in shengen.

 

EU migrants have no right to claim any benefits, and must leave within 3 months if they haven't found employment.

 

Any failure to enforce this is entirely down to UK government policy/incompetance.

 

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That's all well and good in moderation but completely unsustainable when they will not contribute and we as a country have no say in the levels.

On average, EU citizens contribute more to the public purse than UK nationals. EU migrants are more sustainable than UK nationals, in-fact they subsidise UK nationals to the tune of 5p in every pound.

 

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You might think we have a say, but we do not.

Hopelessly incorrect and miss-informed.

 

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[BrexitGuy]

3 minutes ago, Magilla said:

A great many are though.

 

Again, misinformation.

 

We are not in shengen.

 

Immigrants have no right to claim any benefits, and must leave within 3 months if they haven't found employment.

 

Any failure to enforce this is entirely down to UK government policy/incompetance.

 

On average, EU citizens contribute more to the public purse than UK nationals. EU migrants are more sustainable than UK nationals, in-fact they subsidise UK nationals.

 

Hopelessly inncorrect and miss-informed.

 

Just the irony that you spell the word "incorrect" with two "N,s" is enough to disregard you x

[Top Cats Hat]

14 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

However there are a huge number of them who do nothing. Certain areas of Sheffield are teeming with foreign nationals who don't do anything but claim benefits and housing.

More xenophobic fake news!

 

Even before the 2016 referendum it was widely reported that newly arrived immigrants from the EU were not entitled to benefits and that immigrants make a net contribution to our economy and have no detrimental effect on housing, education and healthcare provision.

 

Anyone in 2016 still spreading the lie that immigrants are a drain on our economy after endless discussion of the subject is either very stupid or a racist.

 

Which one are you BrexitGuy?

[BrexitGuy]

Not much of a choice there TCH. 

Although the media is up and down how many are here illegally, the general consensus is between 70-310 thousand. 

Of course, these people can live here under the radar as they don't use public services at all. 

Probably invisible. Just how EU sympathisers choose to wear their blinkers x

[apelike]

26 minutes ago, truman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-44884882

 

https://www.farminguk.com/News/-Food-is-rotting-in-the-fields-and-still-we-see-no-action-NFU-deputy-warns_47804.html

 

http://www.foodservicefootprint.com/labour-shortages-leave-food-rotting-fields/

 

Just Google yourself ..there's loads of reports

Yes there are loads of report about the future shortage of farm labourers to pick fruit and veg which can be validated and is what the farmers are mainly complaining about. The stories about produce being left in the field to rot however is mainly without much evidence. Supposedly because releasing that information may undermine the confidence in their supermarket customers.  Supermarkets rely mostly on supply and demand and have not suffered any consequences of short supply this past season so it cannot have had much effect and what may have rotted cant have been much.

 

Now this is what is happening with some of the farmers supply but its not brexit worthy news:

 

http://wildlifearticles.co.uk/wonky-parsnips-welcome-why-is-so-much-food-being-wasted-by-supermarkets/

 

 

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[Magilla]

38 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

Just the irony that you spell the word "incorrect" with two "N,s" is enough to disregard you x

Given your utterly misinformed notions re: EU migration and health tourism there isn't much else you can do

 

The real irony is that you think you're making life better for your old nan, but are actually doing the opposite, demonstrably so 

 

Turkey's... etc

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[Michael_W]

11 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

More xenophobic fake news!

 

Even before the 2016 referendum it was widely reported that newly arrived immigrants from the EU were not entitled to benefits and that immigrants make a net contribution to our economy and have no detrimental effect on housing, education and healthcare provision.

 

Anyone in 2016 still spreading the lie that immigrants are a drain on our economy after endless discussion of the subject is either very stupid or a racist.

 

Which one are you BrexitGuy?

Interesting how you always try and play the racist/xenophobe card and are not fully being honest yourself, don't you know that immigrants bring their families which use health and education services, these do have an impact, there is a certain school in Sheffield which had issues highlighted on the news lately, and have you sat for several hours in A&E lately ?

It's 2018 now by the way and the reason the country is in a political quagmire is purely because people like you and likeminded arrogant, self righteous politicians ignored ordinary peoples concerns about immigration, it's not all rosy in the garden so spread less of your own fake news, it's not down to people reading the Sun or the DM either, you and your ilk constantly try and put down the opinions of those who disagree with your views, yet they are probably just as knowledgeable, informed and most likely more familiar with the reality than the likes of you !

[nikki-red]

The personal comments and childish bickering ends now. 

If you cant post without resorting to this then please dont post at all.

[BrexitGuy]

4 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Given your utterly misinformed notions re: EU migration and health tourism there isn't much else you can do

 

The real irony is that you think you're making life better for your old nan, but are actually doing the opposite, demonstrably so 

 

Turkey's... etc

Really? Can you tell us all why the PM said, at her Mansion Speech, that immigration will be more suitability controlled after Brexit?

Can you tell us all, because we are all ears. Can you not see why the leave vote won??

I don't hide in a closet behind proofs and links to crap regarding this subject as it's a valid point of view that remainers choose to disembowel for whatever blinkered reason or link they like to squeal.

Immigration is squeezing this country to breaking point and the only way to eradicate this is to get out of the very constitutional dictatorship that is causing it.

You carry on throwing your cheap jibes but it's very obvious you haven't got a clue behind the reasoning of leaving the EU.

 

[Top Cats Hat]

15 minutes ago, Michael_W said:

Interesting how you always try and play the racist/xenophobe card and are not fully being honest yourself,

If continually repeating lies about immigrants and immigration is not racism, xenophobia or ignorance, maybe you could suggest what you think it is?