Top Cats Hat Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Genuine question, in 2018 are rape victims underwear (design, colour or lack of) being used in closing arguments in England? I doubt it. A rape trial is ultimately about whether consent is given. Trying to point out that if someone is more sexually active or wears what some consider 'sexually provoactive' items of clothing, they are more likely to give consent is factually untrue and therefore irrelevant to the case and any judge doing their job should rule such evidence or discussion inadmissible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I doubt it. A rape trial is ultimately about whether consent is given. And whether there was a genuine belief that consent was given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 And whether there was a genuine belief that consent was given? And anyone who tries to argue in 2018 that the fact that the victim was wearing 'sexy knickers' is reasonable grounds for their client to believe she gave her consent to sex should be admonished by the judge and it certainly should play no part in the summing up which is effectively the judge outlining both sides' arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I haven't seen any specific examples on this thread, but women are constantly judged on what they wear. Ask any women you know. If, as a man, I told you lot that I wore big dark green knickers you would all judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubtful Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Its a gamble. To women on the jury the suggestion alone could **** them off and put their backs up enough to doubt the validity of other points made by the the defence. Edited November 22, 2018 by Doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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