France is in chaos .

[mafya]

18 hours ago, Albert smith said:

Read between the lines France has a gigantic problem with Immigration ,large parts of Paris are no go areas for the police and City officials .

Looks like it’s the non immigrants that are causing the problems and rioting. 🙄

[janie48]

17 minutes ago, woodview said:

Interesting to see plain-clothes Police in semi-riot gear.

A country were people still have the passion to stand up and be counted. I'm not condoning looting / general destruction in any way, but at least they do something, rather than sat at home whinging and getting what's given.

I'm certainly not condoning the riots. 

 

Whether those protesting are right-wing or left-wing (and I expect there are both) many of them will be hooligans encouraged by cowardly leaders to cause the chaos. 

 

I'm sure most of the French population are law-abiding  people who will be disgusted by it all though. 

[woodview]

Just now, janie48 said:

I'm certainly not condoning the riots. 

 

Whether those protesting are right-wing or left-wing (and I expect there are both) many of them will be hooligans encouraged by cowardly leaders to cause the chaos. 

 

I'm sure most of the French population are law-abiding  people who will be disgusted by it all though. 

It sounds like lots of people have jumped on the bandwagon, and the protest that started off being against the fuel rises, is now a protest by anybody cheesed off at anything (no pun intended).

However, the French do have  a general willingness to get out and protest, much more than we will in this country.

I agree, the level of the disorder will be looked down on by most people.

Also, don't get fooled by the images of burning cars. They are French and most of them are just symptoms of electrical faults.

[XXTickerXX]

Macrons thugs assaulting disabled people and the elderly. That will endear the nation to you.

 

 

 

[melthebell]

1 hour ago, XXTickerXX said:

Macrons thugs assaulting disabled people and the elderly. That will endear the nation to you.

 

 

 

Lack of respect for the disabled seems to be long held, some articles from 2015

 

Anger as France delays wheelchair access laws

https://www.thelocal.fr/20150723/anger-as-disabled-access-delayed-for-nine-years

 

 

French police use car to push disabled man home

https://www.thelocal.fr/20150914/french-police-filmed-pushing-disabled-man-with-car

 

and one from air france from 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/air-france-refuses-to-take-disabled-passenger-on-honeymoon-because-his-wheelchair-is-too-big-a6875026.html

[Top Cats Hat]

On 12/8/2018 at 3:08 PM, janie48 said:

I'm sure most of the French population are law-abiding  people who will be disgusted by it all though. 

That is not how the French work.

 

France is a republic because over 200 years ago they rose up and executed their ruling class. When they are not happy with something they take to the streets to change things.

 

Tomorrow's French newspapers will be discussing the politics behind the protests not writing Sun and Mail style 'Enemy Within!' headlines and editorials.

[Michael_W]

2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That is not how the French work.

 

France is a republic because over 200 years ago they rose up and executed their ruling class. When they are not happy with something they take to the streets to change things.

 

Tomorrow's French newspapers will be discussing the politics behind the protests not writing Sun and Mail style 'Enemy Within!' headlines and editorials.

The chances of anything happening on British streets in the near future will be centred around Brexit, who do you think would potentially cause the most problems for you and the Guardianista to be disgusted, the right wing working class Leavers or the middle class socialist Remainers ?

[Mister Gee]

14 minutes ago, Michael_W said:

The chances of anything happening on British streets in the near future will be centred around Brexit, who do you think would potentially cause the most problems for you and the Guardianista to be disgusted, the right wing working class Leavers or the middle class socialist Remainers ?

What about us left wing working class remainers who don't read the Guardian?

Edited December 9, 2018 by Mister Gee

[*_ash_*]

3 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That is not how the French work.

 

France is a republic because over 200 years ago they rose up and executed their ruling class. When they are not happy with something they take to the streets to change things.

 

Tomorrow's French newspapers will be discussing the politics behind the protests not writing Sun and Mail style 'Enemy Within!' headlines and editorials.

Yes they work differently to us (sarcasm), here a riot is caused by people rising up to the ruling class (or people with posh accents) - in reality, it ends up with a load of thugs, same as here. At least some start off with good intentions though, and as always some ***** join in. Same as UK riots, same everywhere in the world.

 

see below

43 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

What about us left wing working class remainers who don't read the Guardian?

In here, that's considered as likely as a brexiteer saying they don't read (or aren't influenced) by the Sun or the Mail. Sorry Mister Gee, you don't exist, your entire life has been a dream. (slightly copying some total recall lines) (lol smiley that doesn't work at moment)

 

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jesting a bit there,

 

but I've long said and long been told I'm wrong in here, but there is little different between left and right politics, but also little difference between far-left and far-right politics too. I think the political spectrum is far more 'round' than left/right. Far end views and non-far end views is just overlooked, so everyone ends up considered in one pool or the another, when it's no where near reality.

Edited December 9, 2018 by *_ash_*

[janie48]

4 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That is not how the French work.

 

France is a republic because over 200 years ago they rose up and executed their ruling class. When they are not happy with something they take to the streets to change things.

 

Yes I'm quite aware of their history, but we're discussing modern day times. 

 

That kind of mayhem on the streets in a civilised society is totally unnecessary in this day and age. 

 

That isn't to say I'm against  peaceful protests where there is a need to draw attention to exploitation and social injustice etc,  but certainly not to the extreme degree that was demonstrated in France.