banjodeano Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, Lockdoctor said: We don't have the poll tax, but it wasn't Mrs Thatcher who abolished the poll tax. The rioters never made Mrs Thatcher change her mind. okay, so whoever changed their mind, Thatcher,? Major? the Tory Government? the poll tax riots had the desired effect, the poll tax would have gone through without mass demonstrations, to claim otherwise is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scargill Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, despritdan said: They may not be protesting about high levels of immigration but that's the root cause of the tax rises. They're rapidly becoming a third world country trying to maintain the standards of a first world country just as Britain is, which is why we're so deeply in debt and seeing services being cut as taxes rise. The ever rising demands on the welfare state and NHS of both countries is due to population increase and rising birth rates due to the culture of large families that the incomers bring with them. Add to that the cost of dealing with the rising levels of crime and you end up unsustainable demands on the public purse. Wrong. The uk would not be short of money to support essential services if they sorted out the tax system to ensure high earners and all large companies paid their dues. Edited December 2, 2018 by scargill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The French are rioting because diesel is £1.32 per litre. Our diesel is currently £1.37 a litre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The title of this tread is a sweeping generalisation and dosen't dosen't stand up to the briefest examination. Like many of the headlines in several of our papers and used in many election and referendum .campaigns. Sweeping Generalisations are always wrong ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Flanker7 said: The title of this tread is a sweeping generalisation and dosen't dosen't stand up to the briefest examination. Like many of the headlines in several of our papers and used in many election and referendum .campaigns. Sweeping Generalisations are always wrong ;0) The title of this thread is very accurate considering a French government spokesperson said a state of emergency could be imposed to tackle the unrest and President Macron is chairing an urgent security meeting. No martial law yet in France but that must be an option being considered by the French authorities, if the rioting and civil unrest continues for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: The title of this thread is very accurate considering a French government spokesperson said a state of emergency could be imposed That is nonsense! Of course it is a sweeping generalisation. The unrest involves 0.0015% of the French population in an area equal to 0.0008% of France. The other 99.99991% of France is presumably guggling red wine, eating baguettes and going to work as normal. The French government are trying to use a sweeping generalisation to impose a state of emergency. That doesn't then make that sweeping generalisation suddenly become true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I was regularly in Greece when the papers here were full of 'all-out warfare' and 'massive breakdown of society'. I even walked through one of these 'warzones (Syntagma Square, Athens). Basically the same quality reporters that declare Rotherham a 'no-go islamic state'. ie. Nonsense. Are people protesting and being stupid? Yes. Is the whole country about to break down? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 tzijlstra - we need a 'like' button on this forum. I don't always agree with your posts, but this is spot on!!👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: The French are rioting because diesel is £1.32 per litre. Our diesel is currently £1.37 a litre I paid £124.9 a litre for diesel at Costco today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, mafya said: I paid £124.9 a litre for diesel at Costco today... Do you mean 124.9p/l.mafya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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