France is in chaos .

[Top Cats Hat]

2 hours ago, mafya said:

I paid  £124.9 a litre for diesel at Costco today...

????

 

you do know that you need a Costco card to buy diesel at Costco? 

[Longcol]

3 hours ago, tzijlstra said:

I was regularly in Greece when the papers here were full of 'all-out warfare' and 'massive breakdown of society'. I even walked through one of these 'warzones (Syntagma Square, Athens). Basically the same quality reporters that declare Rotherham a 'no-go islamic state'. ie. Nonsense.

 

Are people protesting and being stupid? Yes. Is the whole country about to break down? No.

The "all out warfare" in France has been confined to the Champs Elysee in Paris and the town hall square in Bordeaux.

 

According to all the papers there were far fewer Gilets Jaunes out and about this Saturday - numbers way down on weeks one and two (which was down a fair bit on week one). Next to nothing in our neck of the woods - lots of drivers displaying GJ's on their dashboard but no blockages - about 10 folk handing out leaflets on the roundabout going into town the first Saturday.

 

Crucially for Macron, of the two main groups who can fairly easily bring the country to a standstill, the lorry drivers union aren't involved, and participation by farmers has been pretty much non existent.

[L00b]

I drove over for a family visit this weekend, like every other weekend. Just came back tonight. Never saw a single picket in 120 miles, either way.

 

I saw one demo. By chance, as if I'd gone into town 5 mins earlier or later I'd have missed it.

 

Couple of farm tractors with trailers and hi-vis jacketed protesters on them, coming down the street and making a bit of noise with foghorns and hooters. A police panda on blues and twos was opening the way. Very civilised, you would nearly have thought it was part of St Nicholas festivities.

 

Call that a protest? Bless!

 

I still remember the (local, North East France) miners' strikes in late 80s/early 90s. Full-on riots around the prefectures, with hundreds of riot police (all bricking themselves). I used to find spent gas grenade canisters on our (3rd storey) balcony after the festivities died down. Now you were talking.

 

But this is "chaos" across the whole country? LOL! Kids burn more cars in 'hard' suburbs on New Year's Eve every year.

 

This is much ado, about not a lot. But it makes for good copy.

 

Diesel here is €1.13. And government-set, in real-time: same price at any petrol station or supermarket anywhere in the country, it goes up and down by a couple of cents every week or so. Probably why there are so few hi-vis protesters across the border: they cross it to come here and fill up at local prices. Have done for decades.

Edited December 2, 2018 by L00b

[mafya]

4 hours ago, RollingJ said:

Do you mean 124.9p/l.mafya?

Yes sorry I meant £1.24.9 pence per litre 🤭

 

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

????

 

you do know that you need a Costco card to buy diesel at Costco? 

Of course I know that as I have got a Costco card myself. 😆

[Top Cats Hat]

Who sells the most petrol and diesel in a country?

 

Motorway service stations of course.

 

So where do you find the ceapest petrol and diesel?

 

Well in motorway service stations, of course.

 

Correct, except in the UK where it is 10-15p a litre more than on the high street.

 

We are being mugged off because we never complain, we just grumble  and put up with it! 

[Lockdoctor]

8 hours ago, L00b said:

I drove over for a family visit this weekend, like every other weekend. Just came back tonight. Never saw a single picket in 120 miles, either way.

 

I saw one demo. By chance, as if I'd gone into town 5 mins earlier or later I'd have missed it.

 

Couple of farm tractors with trailers and hi-vis jacketed protesters on them, coming down the street and making a bit of noise with foghorns and hooters. A police panda on blues and twos was opening the way. Very civilised, you would nearly have thought it was part of St Nicholas festivities.

 

Call that a protest? Bless!

 

I still remember the (local, North East France) miners' strikes in late 80s/early 90s. Full-on riots around the prefectures, with hundreds of riot police (all bricking themselves). I used to find spent gas grenade canisters on our (3rd storey) balcony after the festivities died down. Now you were talking.

 

But this is "chaos" across the whole country? LOL! Kids burn more cars in 'hard' suburbs on New Year's Eve every year.

 

This is much ado, about not a lot. But it makes for good copy.

 

Diesel here is €1.13. And government-set, in real-time: same price at any petrol station or supermarket anywhere in the country, it goes up and down by a couple of cents every week or so. Probably why there are so few hi-vis protesters across the border: they cross it to come here and fill up at local prices. Have done for decades.

In our country if three people had died during protests and famous historic monuments were being  attacked and vandalised then it would be a very serous situation for our people. I guess human life must be considered cheap in France.

[L00b]

36 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

In our country if three people had died during protests and famous historic monuments were being  attacked and vandalised then it would be a very serous situation for our people. I guess human life must be considered cheap in France.

There were famous historic monuments defaced, and no lesser than an MP killed as a protest by a far right activist, “in your country” not so long ago.

 

I guess you have a short and selective memory.

[Lockdoctor]

17 minutes ago, L00b said:

There were famous historic monuments defaced, and no lesser than an MP killed as a protest by a far right activist, “in your country” not so long ago.

 

I guess you have a short and selective memory.

You guess wrong. The MP wasn't killed, but was  murdered. The murderer has been punished. In the immediate aftermath of the murder campaigning was suspended out of respect for the MP.  The incident  was treated very seriously in our country.

[L00b]

25 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

You guess wrong. The MP wasn't killed, but was  murdered. The murderer has been punished. In the immediate aftermath of the murder campaigning was suspended out of respect for the MP.  The incident  was treated very seriously in our country.

Clearly, from your gymnastics, I didn’t.

 

What on earth makes you think that those responsible for protesters being killed in France aren’t facing punishment?

 

What on on earth makes you think, that people in France aren’t saddened by the needless deaths and rioting? You checked French media at all?

 

There is a distraught mother currently in the nick, facing prosecution for killing the first protester a week or two ago. 

 

With any luck, the other two were not genuine protesters, but your usual far right or far left ‘professional’ rioters, who just happened to earn richly-deserved Darwin awards: no great loss to society.

 

I’ve not bothered checking yet, whether those responsible for killing these other two (and injuring so many others) have been apprehended yet. I’m confident they will.

 

By all means, keep up with the faux outrage and jingoistic hubris. It’s as informative about you in this thread, as in the others.

Edited December 3, 2018 by L00b

[melthebell]

49 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

You guess wrong. The MP wasn't killed, but was  murdered. The murderer has been punished. In the immediate aftermath of the murder campaigning was suspended out of respect for the MP.  The incident  was treated very seriously in our country.

There's also a subculture that celebrate her "murder" and they have a similar world outlook to you. They are also being punished