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'Everything’s leaving': Sheffield's town centre gutted by vacancies


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1 hour ago, woodview said:

Crawling traffic, finding a carpark with spaces that's not a fortune.

 

 Outside rush hour I've always found getting into the centre and finding inexpensive parking a relative doddle from Walkley - even the "dreaded" Brook Hill roundabout is a breeze.

 

Where are you trying to get in from (or not)?

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I was very saddened to read that Sinclair's were planning to move to Ecclesall Road.  I can't blame them though, when they explain why.  

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/new-chapter-for-sheffield-department-store-as-it-prepares-to-move-after-50-years-at-same-site-1-9575492

 

I do think though, that people are being a little harsh on our council.  I believe the problem lies more with central government policies.   

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13 hours ago, Planner1 said:

Yes, and you yet again make the claim that it is EASILY mitigated. It is not and I have explained why in detail. You've provided no counter argument to support this incorrect assertion. 

Perhaps we have different definitions for what the word easy means.

The concept is simple, trivial and easy.

I'm not particularly interested in the minutiae of road traffic orders required since it's all entirely hypothetical.

16 hours ago, dutch said:

So the tiny little change someone pays for parking is going to be spent in shops and save them?  

I just see some people who cannot even afford parking, are they going to get these empty shops back to life?

No, you're entirely missing the point.  It's not about being able to spend the £2.50 or whatever.  It's about spending all the rest of the money that you instead take to meadowhall because people don't like paying to park.

11 hours ago, woodview said:

It is a nightmare to drive and park in Sheffield. I drive in for United matches, but wouldn't do so for shopping.

When I have been in, it's been ok, but nothing like as good as dirty Leeds. They are miles ahead, I hate to admit.

Parking for shoppers doesn't need to be free. If it was a simple drive, decent car park, and a reasonable walk, people would be more attracted to it.

Driving around Sheffield is trivial compared to Leeds.  Miss a single junction in Leeds and you might have to go for another 15 minutes just to get onto the motorway to escape the damn place.

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7 hours ago, ads36 said:

Free parking might fix *something* I suppose, crawling traffic it would not.

There's only crawling traffic at rush hour, and into the city only in the morning.

I cycle mostly, but we happened to have a 1830 appointment last week that needed the car, driving from Wadsley to West Street was easy.  On Street parking was easy, plentiful, and cost £1.

6 hours ago, Longcol said:

 Outside rush hour I've always found getting into the centre and finding inexpensive parking a relative doddle from Walkley - even the "dreaded" Brook Hill roundabout is a breeze.

 

Where are you trying to get in from (or not)?

Indeed.  I drive this way more often, going to climbing.  1900, twice a week.  Rarely any traffic approaching the roundabout, or indeed anywhere.

 

And on a Wed skirt the city centre at 1610 to head towards the motorway.  No congestion to speak of until sometimes at Catcliffe.

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6 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

I was very saddened to read that Sinclair's were planning to move to Ecclesall Road.  I can't blame them though, when they explain why.  

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/new-chapter-for-sheffield-department-store-as-it-prepares-to-move-after-50-years-at-same-site-1-9575492

 

I do think though, that people are being a little harsh on our council.  I believe the problem lies more with central government policies.   

No parking stated as a reason?

 

There's a surface car park on Division St, and two nearby Q parks, as well as loads of on street parking.

12 hours ago, woodview said:

It is a nightmare to drive and park in Sheffield. I drive in for United matches, but wouldn't do so for shopping.

When I have been in, it's been ok, but nothing like as good as dirty Leeds. They are miles ahead, I hate to admit.

Parking for shoppers doesn't need to be free. If it was a simple drive, decent car park, and a reasonable walk, people would be more attracted to it.

Which direction are you coming from?

 

I really struggle to see the difficulty in parking in town. There are thousands of easily accessible spaces.

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7 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

I was very saddened to read that Sinclair's were planning to move to Ecclesall Road.  I can't blame them though, when they explain why.  

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/new-chapter-for-sheffield-department-store-as-it-prepares-to-move-after-50-years-at-same-site-1-9575492

 

I do think though, that people are being a little harsh on our council.  I believe the problem lies more with central government policies.   

His mention of a lack of parking is bizarre given that Fitzwilliam Street car park is literally 600ft away.

 

His new customers on Ecclesall Road will no doubt enjoy the delights of Berkeley Precinct instead. 

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8 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

I was very saddened to read that Sinclair's were planning to move to Ecclesall Road.  I can't blame them though, when they explain why.  

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/new-chapter-for-sheffield-department-store-as-it-prepares-to-move-after-50-years-at-same-site-1-9575492

 

I do think though, that people are being a little harsh on our council.  I believe the problem lies more with central government policies.   

Sinclairs obviously hasn't spoken with Dave Allen who said Ecclesall Road isn't what it used to be when he closed Napoleons. Maybe it's more a case of these two businesses not moving with the times?

 

Great to see so many cranes up in the city centre at the moment, it's not perfect but feels like it's heading in the right direction.

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