'Everything’s leaving': Sheffield's town centre gutted by vacancies

[Longcol]

20 minutes ago, woodview said:

It is a nightmare to drive and park in Sheffield.

Yet thousands manage it every day without any difficulty.

[ECCOnoob]

50 minutes ago, woodview said:

It is a nightmare to drive and park in Sheffield. I drive in for United matches, but wouldn't do so for shopping.

When I have been in, it's been ok, but nothing like as good as dirty Leeds. They are miles ahead, I hate to admit.

Parking for shoppers doesn't need to be free. If it was a simple drive, decent car park, and a reasonable walk, people would be more attracted to it.

I honestly don't know how much more simple it needs to be.  It's a city centre not some single street cosy village in the Cotswolds.  

 

The city has a major dual carriageway running all around the perimeter and two major trunk roads right through the centre which covers access to nearly every one of the primary shoppers car parks.   

 

As for walking distance I don't know how much closer people expect to get.   If you want fargate there are two major car parks within few minutes walk away from either end.   If you want the Moor there is a specifically named and signposted car park right alongside which leads directly on to the precinct.  If you want John Lewis or Atkinsons the car parks are directly above the shop and you don't even need to go outside.  Castlegate has its own dedicated and signposted car park as does the railway station, Victoria Quays and the universities.

 

Even including the old skool council surface car parks - whilst they may be a little more off the beaten track to get to they are all still within within a few minutes walk to the major streets. 

 

A simple look at a map or a sat nav program will steer people into any of them very easily.  

 

You cannot seriously tell me that of all places, Leeds  is somehow easier to get to and park than Central Sheffield - that's just nonsense.   

 

I have plenty of experience of that city and after navigating the city loop, repeated flyovers and underpasses, lane changes and one-way systems their car parks are certainly no better than Sheffield's offering. They are frequently more expensive too. 

Edited February 4, 2019 by ECCOnoob

[woodview]

45 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Yet thousands manage it every day without any difficulty.

Yet, I'm a motorist with experience of it, who chooses not to, along with tens of thousands of others.

21 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

I honestly don't know how much more simple it needs to be.  It's a city centre not some single street cosy village in the Cotswolds.  

 

Why aren't people doing it in greater numbers then?

[Guest makapaka]

32 minutes ago, woodview said:

Yet, I'm a motorist with experience of it, who chooses not to, along with tens of thousands of others.

Why aren't people doing it in greater numbers then?

It’s a doddle to get in, park, and get out of Sheffield.

 

never had a problem.

 

what problems do you encounter?

 

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, woodview said:

Yet, I'm a motorist with experience of it, who chooses not to, along with tens of thousands of others.

 

Tens of thousands of people knock work every day because it's too hard to drive into the city centre and park?

[melthebell]

On 01/02/2019 at 21:18, jamichi1 said:

I have been having for long the same idea. However, the question is, who will fund such a place - because it will need a lot of money to be run properly.

not really, hundreds of squats have been run properly with not much money, Matilda st centre in sheff has been a community run squat for years, same with Bradford 1 in 12, was running for decades, still is i think

[Lex Luthor]

On 02/02/2019 at 10:39, makapaka said:

Some people call it Cole brothers in sheffield.

 

its not because they dont know it’s John Lewis its because it took over what was a

flagship Sheffield store.

 

there are other examples around the country where locals haven’t adopted the John Lewis name readily.

 

get over yourselves.

Correct.  And I for one will call it Cole Bros and hope my children will because local heritage should be celebrated. Too much of it is being lost. 

[melthebell]

6 minutes ago, Lex Luthor said:

Correct.  And I for one will call it Cole Bros and hope my children will because local heritage should be celebrated. Too much of it is being lost. 

indeed it will always be Cole Bros to me too, mi Auntie worked there for decades

[woodview]

1 hour ago, makapaka said:

It’s a doddle to get in, park, and get out of Sheffield.

 

never had a problem.

 

what problems do you encounter?

 

Crawling traffic, finding a carpark with spaces that's not a fortune.

54 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Tens of thousands of people knock work every day because it's too hard to drive into the city centre and park?

I'm on about for shopping, where they have a choice of going or not.

[woodview]

3 hours ago, Planner1 said:

In the city centre the Council has around 1500 on-street spaces and about half that in off-street car parks. To put that in context there are about 8500 parking spaces in the city centre provided by private car park operators.

 

Outside the city centre there are around 2500 on-street spaces in controlled parking zones.

That is interesting. Meadowhall has 12,000 . I would have guessed a bigger difference. I suppose city centre distribution of parking is harder to judge and know where has spaces.