woodmally Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) ----------------- Edited February 17, 2019 by woodmally delete post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Cyclone said: Calling for longer sentences and more harsh punishment is typically right wing. People can either act for the good of society or act against society. Letting people off who act to the detriment of society, in this case a little girl, deserve punishment. If you think taking a softly softly approach against evil people is left wing, then you've got a distorted view of what the world needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, woodview said: People can either act for the good of society or act against society. Letting people off who act to the detriment of society, in this case a little girl, deserve punishment. If you think taking a softly softly approach against evil people is left wing, then you've got a distorted view of what the world needs. There are three purposes to jailing people. Punishment, protection and rehabilitation. You appear to be overly focussed on just one of them. You've graduated to using the emotive language here of "evil people" now to describe someone that the Sheriff (actually involved in the case intimately) calls instead naeve. How have you determined that they are in fact evil and not as the Sheriff described? Oh, and longer and harsher sentences don't benefit society in the long run, it's nothing to do with "letting people off" and all to do with achieving the best outcome for society. Using evidence instead of knee jerk emotive responses. Edited February 17, 2019 by Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Cyclone said: There are three purposes to jailing people. Punishment, protection and rehabilitation. You appear to be overly focussed on just one of them. You've graduated to using the emotive language here of "evil people" now to describe someone that the Sheriff (actually involved in the case intimately) calls instead naeve. How have you determined that they are in fact evil and not as the Sheriff described? Oh, and longer and harsher sentences don't benefit society in the long run, it's nothing to do with "letting people off" and all to do with achieving the best outcome for society. Using evidence instead of knee jerk emotive responses. Longer and harsher than no sentence?? Cba discussing with an apologist any more, you have a very different set of priorities to most right thinking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Im sure with all the media, she will be brought home and housed at our expense, how many of you have walked past homeless people without a thought, do they not deserve the same consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, phil752 said: Im sure with all the media, she will be brought home and housed at our expense, how many of you have walked past homeless people without a thought, do they not deserve the same consideration. Homeless people do get housed at our expense. There is a wealth of services, organisations and charities that provide for them. Whether or not they can or choose to engage with said services is another matter. Someone being on the streets is not a black and white issue and there may be 1001 other reasons beyond the simplistic position of "not having a home" In any event it has chuff all to do with the topic under discussion or even the right thread! Edited February 18, 2019 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Homeless people do get housed at our expense. There is a wealth of services, organisations and charities that provide for them. Whether or not they can or choose to engage with said services is another matter. Someone being on the streets is not a black and white issue and there may be 1001 other reasons beyond the simplistic position of "not having a home" In any event it has chuff all to do with the topic under discussion or even the right thread! obviously hit a nerve, has to how we treat naturally disadvantaged, against we treat media hyped ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 you are right wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 9 hours ago, woodview said: Longer and harsher than no sentence?? Cba discussing with an apologist any more, you have a very different set of priorities to most right thinking people. I'm not sure you know what an apologist is. Unless you think I'm apologising for the behaviour of the Sheriff, which clearly doesn't need any apology. You seem unable to get beyond your emotional response to any issue and to consider things in a rational way and when people don't agree you just head straight for the insults box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The personal comments and bickering ends here. Discuss the topic, not each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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