danot Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) The difference between determining gender and what defines gender is- society determines which of the two gender classes a person belongs to based on their body when its actually the psyche that defines which gender, if any, we identify with. Edited February 17, 2019 by danot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Cyclone said: The sex of an individual is determined by a pair of sex chromosomes. Females typically have two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX), and are called the homogametic sex. Males typically have two different kinds of sex chromosomes (XY), and are called the heterogametic sex. Angel1. You've confused sex and gender. I think not. It was a direct quote from a medical research type article. I can't find the damn thing either. just when I wanted to. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'm fine with anyones sexuality or gender. The point has hone way off track. In this case, the person who identifies as male, but is female, and gave birth to the child, IS its mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: You've confused sex and gender. I think not. It was a direct quote from a medical research type article. I can't find the damn thing either. just when I wanted to. Angel1. That's not the point of confusion. You've given the definition of sex when that isn't in question. 9 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: Racist. Is it "gammon" to state reality? I could self identify as a Martian, it doesn't make it so. Racist. Wow, you're pretty confused about this whole thing aren't you. On 16/02/2019 at 11:04, WiseOwl182 said: A woman born a woman will always be a woman. A man born a man will always be a man. This is pretty much the definition of transphobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Cyclone said: Racist. Wow, you're pretty confused about this whole thing aren't you. Gammon is a racist term. 1 hour ago, Cyclone said: This is pretty much the definition of transphobia. No it isn't. 'Transphobia' (not really the right term since phobia implies fear) is *discrimination* against transgender people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/14/gammon-not-racial-slur-change-conversation No it's not, now don't being all snowflake about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cyclone said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/14/gammon-not-racial-slur-change-conversation No it's not, now don't being all snowflake about it. I'll take no lessons from that vile excuse of a man. He says "affluent white men" are not a race. Really? If you can only apply gammon to white people then it is racist, in the same way as an insult that could only be used on black people is racist too. Just look at the comments section as well. Utter hypocrisy. Edited February 17, 2019 by WiseOwl182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Well, no, clearly not. Caucasian is. But affluence nor gender are part of race are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Gammon is a racist term. No it isn't. 'Transphobia' (not really the right term since phobia implies fear) is *discrimination* against transgender people. Refusal to accept that someone has transitioned gender is an example of transphobia. A textbook example in fact. And yes, we all know that the phobia originally meant fear of. But that's not what it means with reference to homophobia, transphobia or other types of discriminatory characterisation is it. Edited February 17, 2019 by Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cyclone said: Well, no, clearly not. Caucasian is. But affluence nor gender are part of race are they. Would it be ok to use a derogatory race-specific term about affluent black males then? No. So it shouldn't be against white people either. It's also ageist too (an ist that the left don't tend to bother about too much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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