tzijlstra Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Albert smith said: Globalised World ?,Only yesterday Geert Wilders stated that Holland should refuse all Muslim migrants ,We have imported an evil called Islam he is reported to have said.. Geert Wilders is about as representative of the Netherlands as Rees-Mogg would be if he permed and died his hair straw blond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinelle Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) Government officials are preparing to deal with “putrefying stockpiles” of rubbish in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to documents leaked to The Guardian. If the UK leaves the EU without a deal on 29 March, export licenses for millions of tons of waste will become invalid overnight. Environment Agency (EA) officials said leaking stockpiles could cause pollution. The EA is also concerned that if farmers cannot export beef and lamb, a backlog of livestock on farms could cause liquid manure stores to overflow. A senior MP said the problems could cause a public health and environmental pollution emergency. “Odors will obviously be an issue as the stockpiled waste putrefies and there may be runoff of leachates, causing secondary pollution.” The second example related to animal slurry. “Problems may arise in exporting livestock to the EU. In that situation, farmers may be overstocked and unable to export lamb/beef etc. That means that they may have problems with slurry storage capacity and insufficient land spreading capability.” Mary Creagh, the chair of parliament’s environmental audit committee, said: “The UK’s waste and recycling system is already fragile but these shocking emails show it will grind to a halt if customs checks and WTO tariffs prevent the export of millions of tons of waste.” An EA spokesman said: “As with the whole of government and the rest of the public sector, we are preparing responsibly for all scenarios as we exit the EU.” As well as recycling waste, the UK ships about 3million tons of rubbish a year to the EU to be burned in incinerators that generate electricity. Most of this is household rubbish, which is sometimes shredded and has metal removed before being sent abroad. If waste has to be stockpiled after a no-deal Brexit, industry experts say the populous south-east of England would be worst affected. The UK’s lack of incinerator capacity and shrinking number of landfill sites drives the exports. About time those Southerners learned a thing or two about the state of the rest of the country!!!! Edited February 2, 2019 by justinelle editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: Maybe you could explain to all the good people how I have done that? 😄 The good people don't need me to explain to them your dodge pot mathematical skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: The good people don't need me to explain to them your dodge pot mathematical skills. Proper Brexiteers answer right there. It's like asking a Brexiteer for a list of tangible benefits of leaving the EU. A question they are unable to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 8 hours ago, apelike said: But there does not have to be a hard border as there is nothing in international law that states there must be a border at all. Not quite, the UK is obliged to restrict counterfeits, ensure environmental safety, deter human smuggling, protect industrial and commercial property and safeguarding national treasures (amongst other things) as a signatory to United Nations charters. Most of them rely on having borders. 8 hours ago, apelike said: If it really comes down to having one then it it could just be a simple border for customs goods checks only and not for people. How will that stop those people loading up the car with counterfeit or restricted goods and just driving over the border? Sounds like a smugglers paradise and would almost certainly bring widespread litigation at the WTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Far right Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders says something Islamaphobic, hands up if a) you're surprised, b) that contradicts the world being globalised? 26 minutes ago, Magilla said: Not quite, the UK is obliged to restrict counterfeits, ensure environmental safety, deter human smuggling, protect industrial and commercial property and safeguarding national treasures (amongst other things) as a signatory to United Nations charters. Most of them rely on having borders. How will that stop those people loading up the car with counterfeit or restricted goods and just driving over the border? Sounds like a smugglers paradise and would almost certainly bring widespread litigation at the WTO. It obviously makes no sense for either the EU or the UK to have no border as it makes smuggling to avoid tariffs impossible to avoid. So unless we're still in the common market both parties require a border or any tariff is basically irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 According to the BBC this morning, once we leave, goods, (presumably they mean UK export & those made here for our market), which currently have the 'CE' safety mark, won't be able to use this safety designation as it's basically an EU protected trademark. Already some in the business sector have stated that a new safety mark will have to be introduced & this will push up costs. Why? Is it just me who's beginning to feel that some in business will use any opportunity to use Brexit as a way to increase prices? Also I'm old enough to remember the old British Standards kite mark that was perfectly acceptable until it was phased out in the 1990's to be replaced by the CE mark. I don't see why it should cost a fortune to return to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Baron99 said: According to the BBC this morning, once we leave, goods, (presumably they mean UK export & those made here for our market), which currently have the 'CE' safety mark, won't be able to use this safety designation as it's basically an EU protected trademark. Already some in the business sector have stated that a new safety mark will have to be introduced & this will push up costs. Why? Is it just me who's beginning to feel that some in business will use any opportunity to use Brexit as a way to increase prices? Also I'm old enough to remember the old British Standards kite mark that was perfectly acceptable until it was phased out in the 1990's to be replaced by the CE mark. I don't see why it should cost a fortune to return to this? I agree with what you write. It shouldn't be a big deal to replace the CE safety label with a British safety label and keeping the same safety legislation. Too many people like to look for problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 We will of course have to continue to comply with EU legislation to sell goods into the EU and presumably to mark them CE. We won't have any say over what those standards are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 01/02/2019 at 08:18, Lockdoctor said: I am from British India . I understand British humour which is why I know Sammy Wilson was joking when he told people to go to the chippy. From the India that gained independence in 1947? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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