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[Car Boot]

1 hour ago, bendix said:

 

Please don't shatter Car Boot's political meme-induced fantasy by using pesky facts.

 

The Leave v Remain divide had nothing to do with either geography (north v south) or social class.  It was predominantly a generational divide.

According to a Joseph Rowntree Report of August 2016 in which a key finding stated:

 

"The poorest households, with incomes of less than £20,000 per year, were much more likely to support leaving the EU than the wealthiest households, as were the unemployed, people in low-skilled and manual occupations, people who feel that their financial situation has worsened, and those with no qualifications."

 

https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities

 

The Leave vote was about poverty revolting against the rich.

 

The Remain vote was about the wealthy desperately trying to retain their social and economic advantages.

Edited February 4, 2019 by Car Boot

[woodview]

28 minutes ago, El Cid said:

The middle-classes were more likely to vote to remain, and the working classes more likely to vote to leave.

 

That doesn't suit the agenda of some Remainers on here. They believe themselves to be left wing guardians of the working class. If they ever met some, they'd realise they aren't.

[Lockdoctor]

36 minutes ago, Litotes said:

You are ignoring the EU-Japan trade deal that has just been signed meaning that it may well be cheaper to import cars from Japan than from the UK in future.

What a pity we won't be signing a trade deal with either Japan or the EU in the near future...

How is the EU-Japan trade deal relevant to Nissan's decision not to make the new diesel model car in Sunderland given the fact they aren't planning to increase the numbers of the new models produced in their Japan  factory ?  Logic tells me the EU - Japan trade deal is as likely to have a negative impact on car production  in Sunderland regardless of whether the UK remained in the EU or leaves the EU which the democratic UK people voted to do.

[Mister M]

52 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

According to a Joseph Rowntree Report of August 2016 in which a key finding stated:

 

"The poorest households, with incomes of less than £20,000 per year, were much more likely to support leaving the EU than the wealthiest households, as were the unemployed, people in low-skilled and manual occupations, people who feel that their financial situation has worsened, and those with no qualifications."

 

https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities

 

The Leave vote was about poverty revolting against the rich.

 

The Remain vote was about the wealthy desperately trying to retain their social and economic advantages.

Hmmm....How do you explain poverty voting for austerity?

[Mister M]

1 hour ago, Michael_W said:

Ah facts, where do you get yours from yougov or the Guardian ? Plenty of working class people I know of various ages voted leave, what I will tell you is most of them were probably male and working class, sticking their two fingers up to the educated, I'm alright jack, self righteous, me me me, middle class socialists and ignorant politicians alike, which group do you belong to ….. let me guess !

As for threats of rioting,  just more project fear aka the main theme of politicians and business people both Leavers and Remainers alike, I must admit though that the Poll tax riots only got as bad as they did because the working class turned up too, the working class will always enjoy a good old street fight !

Okay....So the working classes you know voted leave because they wanted to "stick two fingers up to the educated, I'm alright jack, self righteous me, me, me middle class socialists and ignorant politicians alike"

But you say they were "probably male"

You know exactly why they voted Brexit, but you couldn't determine their gender.

 

Are the pubs you drink in the sort where 'men are men, and the women are men too....'  

[RJRB]

1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

According to a Joseph Rowntree Report of August 2016 in which a key finding stated:

 

"The poorest households, with incomes of less than £20,000 per year, were much more likely to support leaving the EU than the wealthiest households, as were the unemployed, people in low-skilled and manual occupations, people who feel that their financial situation has worsened, and those with no qualifications."

 

https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities

 

The Leave vote was about poverty revolting against the rich.

 

The Remain vote was about the wealthy desperately trying to retain their social and economic advantages.

So the poor downtrodden masses are being saved by the right wing of the Conservative party.

That’ll be the day.

 

Edited February 4, 2019 by RJRB

[woodview]

6 minutes ago, RJRB said:

So the poor downtrodden masses are being saved by the right wing of the Conservative party.

That’ll be the day.

 

No they're not. Brexit happens to be being implemented by the Tories (of sorts). Tories and Labour are both pro brexit according to manifestos and A50 voting.

Labour have refused to engage , so the working class who voted to Leave don't have any voice in the process.

[Magilla]

Eurotunnel deciding whether to sue over the effects of Brexit on its business:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47124058

[RJRB]

14 minutes ago, woodview said:

No they're not. Brexit happens to be being implemented by the Tories (of sorts). Tories and Labour are both pro brexit according to manifestos and A50 voting.

Labour have refused to engage , so the working class who voted to Leave don't have any voice in the process.

Both parties have agreed to implement Brexit as voted for.

Only one party promised the referendum,and why so.?Because the right wingers have been agitating to leave the EU.and Cameron hoped to unite the party.

So carve it as you will but there is some strange coalescence between two unlikely bedfellows ,and the one area of common ground ,which was heavily played by the agitators was and is Immigration.

[RJRB]

Regrettably,and I can hear the howls of protest as I write,there is an obvious correlation to be made from Carboots quote.

Those who are better educated tend to get the higher paid jobs.

Draw your own conclusions