tinfoilhat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Obelix said: Do you see one of those happening without a GE or a referendum? Weve been saying that for two years. All you get back is hot air about "german cars" and "we are needed more" and so forth. I can't see that level of malovolent ignorance changing soon... A brief look on the bbc news comments confirms that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: A brief look on the bbc news comments confirms that. Folk on there stating that the rest of the world trades on WTO, the exact opposite of reality! It's quite weird how no-one ever seems to get challenged on any of these things. Esther McVey managed to simply not answer any questions on anything on the TV yesterday by simply saying that everyone pointing out these issues probably voted remain.... That was it!!! No attempt to challenge her whatsoever, or to point out that the very people highlighting these issues are experts in their respective fields and are the very people that deliver these services.. like they haven't a clue how their own businesses work. It's totally bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, mafya said: Mays bill doesn’t take us out of the EU it keeps us tied in and over a barrel! https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/8193941/brussels-brexit-boast-following-rules-for-years-to-come/ It satisfies the question asked on the ballot paper. But it is an appalling deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: The fact that Parliament is made up of about 75% of remainers and the Withdrawal Agreement which Mrs May supports suffered such a massive defeat can only lead to the conclusion the only way the UK will leave the EU is without a deal. There is no point in any further negotiations between the UK and EU taking place. Parliament wouldn’t allow no deal to happen. Simple as that But I expect it would allow an acceptable Brexit to take place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: Parliament wouldn’t allow no deal to happen. Simple as that But I expect it would allow an acceptable Brexit to take place Parliament can't stop a no deal happening if they don't agree to accept any deal on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, apelike said: That is something that has already been discussed in the Lords but has basically been given a no for a number of reasons. I will see if I can find the details. I suspect that the main reason is because referenda are so infrequent that restrictions and limitations are much better made on a case by case basis rather than blanket legislation covering all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: Parliament can't stop a no deal happening if they don't agree to accept any deal on offer. Yes they can. But if I was you I wouldn’t keep using the runaway train towards no deal argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I see David Davies is in front of European scrutiny committee blaming everyone but David Davies. Remind me how many times he bothered to turn up to negotiations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Obelix said: Since I never said anything about needing confirmation then I can only conclude that you are trying to build a strawman. Now are you going to actually answer the substantive point I made or do I have to rub your nose in it? You actually did. I even made your quote in bold to make the point. You said that the EU will not accept our revocation of A50 without reason. I simply stated that your assertion is complete rubbish. We can unilaterally revoke it, the government doesn’t have to give a reason. So what is your point exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, ez8004 said: You actually did. I even made your quote in bold to make the point. You said that the EU will not accept our revocation of A50 without reason. I simply stated that your assertion is complete rubbish. We can unilaterally revoke it, the government doesn’t have to give a reason. So what is your point exactly? The poster might have meant extending Article 50 which can't be done unilaterally. 1 hour ago, I1L2T3 said: Yes they can. But if I was you I wouldn’t keep using the runaway train towards no deal argument. I am only stating the legal position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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