I1L2T3 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, melthebell said: just like we did the majority of the time....hmmmmm It’s a lot less for Norway. About 75% of trade-related directives and about 30% in total of all EU laws and directives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 18 hours ago, RJRB said: Can anyone explain to me how a time limit can be set and limited for the so called backstop. If it is applied because agreement cannot be reached,surely it must remain effective until these differences are settled.(which on the evidence so far could be years). If this is the main issue holding up a deal,then it seems to me it requires either the wisdom of Solomon or the cunning of Edmund Blackadder to solve the problem. That would provide a 7 year period to arrive at a position where we don't need the backstop. There would be a couple of changes in UK and EU governments during this time, if neither side can produce the people to sort out a dealt then we really are all doomed and the backstop wont matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: Certainly. https://www.channel4.com/press/news/c4-survey-uk-would-vote-remain-eu-majority-54-46 That was a poll of 20,000 people by Survation. How many people did the Mail poll? Thanks for that, so a totally different poll? Any link showing the data you claim is missing from the graphic of the poll I quoted? No, didn't think so. Poll size was 2046, Which gives a margin of error of 2% (rounded), compared to your sample size, which gives a margin of error of 1% (rounded) @ a 95% confidence level. Edited January 21, 2019 by convert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, ez8004 said: What you really mean is, being like Norway is worse than being in the EU since we need to follow legislation to in the single market but have no say is creating them. Since when did we decide what is leaving and what isn’t? Not having MEPs in the EU Parliament isn’t enough? Not having an EU Commissioner from the U.K. isn’t enough? Anymore? brexTREMISTS are extremists they want out completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, tzijlstra said: Correction - Norway has to abide by single market rules - it opts in and out of other EU legislation as they feel appropriate. The fact is, most of the time they feel it is appropriate to adopt EU legislation, turns out it makes sense a lot of the time? 36 minutes ago, tzijlstra said: Correction - Norway has to abide by single market rules - it opts in and out of other EU legislation as they feel appropriate. The fact is, most of the time they feel it is appropriate to adopt EU legislation, turns out it makes sense a lot of the time? The single market means the free movement of goods, services, capital, Labour in what universe is that leaving the EU ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: They are not in the EU So you lied. Don't call me a liar. Norway has to abide by the single market rules. And that equates to staying in the EU in all but name for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ez8004 said: Aww bless. You think the PM has a mandate to do anything. Yes as unless parliament can come up with something new she still has a mandate for the UK to leave the EU with or without a deal as given to her by the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: The single market means the free movement of goods, services, capital, Labour in what universe is that leaving the EU ? 16 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Don't call me a liar. Norway has to abide by the single market rules. And that equates to staying in the EU in all but name for us. You do realise the referendum simply asked Leave or Remain? A Norway deal means that we have left the EU. The referendum question made no mention of the single market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, apelike said: Yes as unless parliament can come up with something new she still has a mandate for the UK to leave the EU with or without a deal as given to her by the electorate. Let’s hope Parliament comes up with something new then because to leave without a deal would be a self inflicted act of sheer stupidity ,mainly by the Conservatives but ably backed by Labour. Sovereignty looks a poor option if we entrust our futures to these clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 So in completely unexpected news - May has declared that it is her deal or... well, not a lot. We are still at the beckon and call of May and Corbyn power-struggles with no regard at all for the people involved. (except I no longer have to pay £65 for the pleasure of getting an unclear status) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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