Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Cyclone]

We've long established that the EU is a socialist organisation.

[Car Boot]

23 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

We've long established that the EU is a socialist organisation.

 The two basic EU treaties which all member states must sign - Treaty on European Union (originally The Maastricht Treaty) and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union have neoliberal, free market and monetarist economics as their core basis. As Tony Benn stated "The EU has the only constitution in the world committed to capitalism". 

 

Any economic and political union that dictates that all member states MUST operate a competitive market economy system based on the free movement of capital, goods, services and labour can NEVER be a socialist organisation. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Car Boot

[geared]

35 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

To make a new social order, the power bases of the old economy have to be dismantled. Something the pro-business EU would never permit.

 

What new social order? 

[Car Boot]

31 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

We've long established that the EU is a socialist organisation.

Suggesting that the EU is a socialist organisation is ridiculous in the extreme. Its very difficult to even take seriously such an absurd idea!

 

 If the EU was truly a socialist organisation, it would not have the support of big capital - which it has. Over three-quarters of large British businesses want continued membership. The Confederation of British Industry and a majority of the members of the Institute of Directors are all almost fanatically pro-EU. The big banks love the EU too.

 

Since when were the captains of industry supporters of anything socialist?

 

Answer: Never have been. Never will be.

[Magilla]

54 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Conservative party are not going to be in power forever. In fact, a change of government is looming.

Rather awkwardly for that view, all the governments in waiting want to remain

 

Labour to support Norway-style EU proposal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47776505

Edited April 1, 2019 by Magilla

[Top Cats Hat]

14 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Since when were the captains of industry supporters of anything socialist?

Since when were Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees-Mogg or Boris Johnson supporters of anything socialist?

 

Are they looking for a new social order or a low wage, low regulation economy to help their rich mates become even richer?

 

And which is more likely to happen if the UK leaves the EU? ? Your vision or theirs?

 

 

[Top Cats Hat]

 

 

Bad news for the Brextremists.

 

No deal and unicorns motions have not been not selected for debate.

 

• Motion C: Customs union - Proposer: Ken Clarke, Conservative
• Motion D: 'Common Market 2.0' - Proposer: Nick Boles, Conservative
• Motion E: Confirmatory public vote - Proposers: Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson, Labour

• Motion G: Parliamentary supremacy - Proposer: Joanna Cherry, Scottish National Party

 

 

 

[geared]

21 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Rather awkwardly for that view, all the governments in waiting want to remain

 

Labour to support Norway-style EU proposal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47776505

and just as awkward for the government, common market 2.0 is a Tory proposal.

 

The party supports both a soft and hard Brexit simultaneously.

Edited April 1, 2019 by geared

[Top Cats Hat]

5 minutes ago, geared said:

The party supports both a soft and hard Brexit.

In Laura Kuenssberg's documentary tonight, the Tory Chief Whip Julian Smith says that after the 2017 election, the government should have been honest with the electorate and sacked off any plans for a hard Brexit as it no lonnger had the numbers.

 

For the last two years Teresa May has been promising leave voters something that she was never going to be able to deliver.

[ANGELFIRE1]

20 hours ago, ez8004 said:

Spoiling your ballot paper will get you what exactly?

 

Satisfaction.

 

Angel1.