Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

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54 minutes ago, apelike said:

Because in our representative democracy parliament have decreed that it is only those that are eligible to vote and actually turn out to vote that count in any election or referendum. It's a very simple principle and something that all nations in the EU have adopted. As it impossible to include everybody so a line must be drawn up as to who can vote and how the results are accepted, and that is by a majority decision.

 

Compulsory voting is an effect of laws which require eligible citizens to register and vote in elections, and may impose penalties on those who fail to do so. As of August 2013, 22 countries provide for compulsory voting, and 11 democracies — about 5% of all United Nations members — enforce it.

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18 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Wreck the EU from the inside?

 

Lets do this!

Just what that well known revolutionary Rees-Mogg has been advocating.

 

"We'll keep the hedge fund flying here."

[Car Boot]

15 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

You just described our civil service too

 

Are you understanding this yet?

The Commission is not the EU civil service.

 

The Commission is the EU executive, the main EU government.

 

Are YOU understanding this yet?

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1 hour ago, apelike said:

Because in our representative democracy parliament have decreed that it is only those that are eligible to vote and actually turn out to vote that count in any election or referendum. 

You are (possibly deliberately) missing the point.

 

Your view matters whether you partook in 2016's discredited, non-binding referendum or not. The reason why we are in this complete mess is that Theresa May decided on a course of action which was supported by less than 40% of the electorate ignoring everyone else. 

 

That is why we didn't leave on the 29th March, we aren't leaving today and in all likelihood won't be leaving on 31st October, not so much because Remainers are thwarting it but because it doesn't have support of the majority of citizens of the United Kingdom and even those who do support it are completely divided about what it actually means.

 

[Car Boot]

8 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

You are (possibly deliberately) missing the point.

 

Your view matters whether you partook in 2016's discredited, non-binding referendum or not. The reason why we are in this complete mess is that Theresa May decided on a course of action which was supported by less than 40% of the electorate ignoring everyone else. 

 

That is why we didn't leave on the 29th March, we aren't leaving today and in all likelihood won't be leaving on 31st October, not so much because Remainers are thwarting it but because it doesn't have support of the majority of citizens of the United Kingdom and even those who do support it are completely divided about what it actually means.

 

So you don't believe that the real reason the democratic direction of 17.4 million people is being denied is because Westminster is over 75 per cent Remainer?

 

The Brexit hating Remainer minority imposing their will upon the Leave majority.

Edited April 12, 2019 by Car Boot

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6 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

is being denied is because Westminster is over 75 per cent Remainer?

This will be the same Westminster which overwhelmingly voted to trigger Article 50?

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9 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

So you don't believe that the real reason the democratic direction of 17.4 million people is being denied is because Westminster is over 75 per cent Remainer?

 

The Brexit hating Remainer minority imposing their will upon the Leave majority.

So when hundreds of thousands of jobs which support many communities all over the country are lost, will you be still peddling 'anti -EU elitist' schtick? Or will you do what the likes of Rees Mogg, and Farage do which is to hide behind the will of the people nonsense to hide their guilt?

Edited April 12, 2019 by Mister M

[Car Boot]

4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

So when hundreds of thousands of jobs which support many communities all over the country are lost, will you be still peddling 'anti -EU elitist' schtick? Or will you do what the likes of Rees Mogg, and Farage do which is to hide behind the will of the people nonsense?

Didn't we lose over 800,000 jobs just by voting to Leave the EU utopia?

 

Oh, hang on. No we didn't. That was Remainer scare propaganda to frighten the people into voting how the establishment wanted them to.

 

My bad.

Edited April 12, 2019 by Car Boot

[Mister M]

On ‎09‎/‎04‎/‎2019 at 16:18, Mister M said:

You've reminded me, Make UK which represents over 200,000 manufacturing companies in the UK said that a no deal Brexit would be 'catastrophic' for the industries and the people who work in them.

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/eef-make-uk-catastrophic-brexit/

 

Some of these companies will be in places like Sheffield.  Leaving the EU, especially with no deal would be bad Sheffield. 

How would mass unemployment be good for Sheffield?

I suppose these 200,00 companies are part of the establishment too?

Edited April 12, 2019 by Mister M

[apelike]

1 hour ago, Cyclone said:

So...  Do we get to have a vote or not?  Are they elected in the end or not.  How was Farage not deemed unsuitable?

Are you talking about the people who run the EU or the MEPs? In your post of #2191 you were referring to the ones that run the EU.