Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[geared]

1 hour ago, L00b said:

Project Fear

 

 

I thought the Express were pro-Brexit?

 

13 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

The EU gave the Greeks a good kicking and I’m sure they’re one of their own.

 

Well needed IMO, and more specifically they gave the populist PM a good kicking, pretty much embarrassing him in front of his country.

Did a similar thing happen to the Italians?  I remember the new government wanting to go mad on spending when they came in?

Edited July 31, 2019 by geared

[L00b]

33 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

The EU gave the Greeks a good kicking and I’m sure they’re one of their own.

The EU didn't give the Greeks a good kicking.

 

The EU respected the Greek people's will to stay in the €urozone (71% in June 2015), despite their parlous public finances and refusal to entertain belt-tightening measures, by finding a workable agreement with the Greek government of the time.

 

The Greek economy, and by extension the Greek people, have done really rather well out of it since (...considering where and what they were starting from).

 

They exited the last bailout plan last August, by the way. Between the £ dropping like a lead bucket and Johnson's spending promises, if he (or Corbyn - the irony! ) should implement them, you're getting lined up for your own bailout plan in a few years' time.

 

So if I were a Brexiteer, I'd spend a little less time phantasizing about the EU breaking down or the € tanking, or spaffing about consequences of Brexit on the EU27,  and a little more time pragmatically wondering how does my pro-Brexit government plan to keep the lights on past Christmas 2019, tbh.

 

Saw some interesting stats mentioned today, about automotive sector investment in the UK year-to-date. £90m in the first 6m of 2018. Compared to £347m same period last year. In the context of a minimum of £330m spent by m'facturers on Brexit contingency planning so far. But not a consequence of Brexit. No Sir.

Edited July 31, 2019 by L00b

[retep]

1 hour ago, L00b said:

Project Fear

 

 

Why would the EU kick one of their own after Brexit, pray tell? 

 

You mean the UK weren't one of their own, there's a surprise.

[retep]

1 hour ago, altus said:

Also seems to have missed the point of the article - the Irish economy would suffer because of falling demand from the UK. i.e. The UK economy would tank.

The UK economy is not dependant on Ireland.

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, retep said:

 

You mean the UK weren't one of their own, there's a surprise.

The UK haven't / aren't / won't be "kicked" by the EU. Any damage is entirely of the UK's own making (or more to the point the no deal brexiteers).

46 minutes ago, retep said:

The UK economy is not dependant on Ireland.

The article didn't say that - I don't think you read it.

[L00b]

2 hours ago, retep said:

 

You mean the UK weren't one of their own, there's a surprise.

What on earth gave you that idea?

 

You made a claim that the EU would kick Ireland after it exceeds its usefulness (subtext of your claim: after Brexit). I just asked you for why the EU would do that.

 

Still waiting for you to explain your claim.

[hobinfoot]

2 hours ago, L00b said:

The EU didn't give the Greeks a good kicking.

 

The EU respected the Greek people's will to stay in the €urozone (71% in June 2015), despite their parlous public finances and refusal to entertain belt-tightening measures, by finding a workable agreement with the Greek government of the time.

 

The Greek economy, and by extension the Greek people, have done really rather well out of it since (...considering where and what they were starting from).

 

They exited the last bailout plan last August, by the way. Between the £ dropping like a lead bucket and Johnson's spending promises, if he (or Corbyn - the irony! ) should implement them, you're getting lined up for your own bailout plan in a few years' time.

 

So if I were a Brexiteer, I'd spend a little less time phantasizing about the EU breaking down or the € tanking, or spaffing about consequences of Brexit on the EU27,  and a little more time pragmatically wondering how does my pro-Brexit government plan to keep the lights on past Christmas 2019, tbh.

 

Saw some interesting stats mentioned today, about automotive sector investment in the UK year-to-date. £90m in the first 6m of 2018. Compared to £347m same period last year. In the context of a minimum of £330m spent by m'facturers on Brexit contingency planning so far. But not a consequence of Brexit. No Sir.

You have to be joking. The Greeks were punished or given a good kicking the choice of words is the same. The EU knew the Greeks were not in a position to join the Euro but fudged the figures so they could be admitted then when it went belly up they imposed stringent terms on them if they wanted to remain. I’m pretty sure the Greek people thought they had been kicked by the EU.

[retep]

21 minutes ago, L00b said:

What on earth gave you that idea?

 

You made a claim that the EU would kick Ireland after it exceeds its usefulness (subtext of your claim: after Brexit). I just asked you for why the EU would do that.

 

Still waiting for you to explain your claim.

I said expect the EU would kick Ireland to one side , 

and Ireland may wake up when it gets  it's bill after Brexit.

[Pettytom]

14 minutes ago, retep said:

I said expect the EU would kick Ireland to one side , 

and Ireland may wake up when it gets  it's bill after Brexit.

What bill is that?

 

How big will it be?

 

Will it be bigger than the UK’s “bill”?

[Top Cats Hat]

6 hours ago, Robin-H said:

Have you find the link or reference to the study that showed typical leave voters have achieved very little in life yet?

 

Sorry for not letting it go, but I think claiming such a thing and then saying 'do you own research' isn't really good enough. 

This was discussed ages ago (during the first six months after the vote in 2016) and links may or may not been provided then.

 

I have no intention of digging up three year old statistics just as I have stopped linking to statistics showing that 65% of Labour voters voted to remain for idiot Brexiteers who think that the Leave vote being 65%  in Northern Labour areas is equivalent to 65% of Labour voters supporting Leave.

 

Profiles of ‘typical’ voters carried out in the wake of the referendum showed a number of commonalities within the ‘Leave’ group such as more likely to be above a certain age, more likely to be poorly educated, more likely to be racist, more likely to be unemployed, more likely to oppose immigration, more likely to get their news from facebook rather than a newspaper, more likely to read the Sun and the Mail than the Guardian and Independant, more likely to have ‘conservative’ views on social matters like gay rights, the death penalty and abortion and yes, more likely to have underachieved.