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21 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Really?

 

I guarantee that Scotland and Ireland* will leave the UK before the EU loses any more members.

 

(*and if yesterday’s Newsnight is to be believed, even Wales is seriously reconsidering remaining in a bankrupt union with England, after Scotland and Ireland leave.)

I actually think that Boris is too much of a pragmatic politician to allow this to happen. He won’t want to be remembered as the last PM of the United Kingdom.

 

The clues are there already. He’s sending aides to talk to people that he said he wouldn’t talk to. He’s muttering about a two year transition. It is seven weeks until parliament reconvenes, by then he could have gone bat**** remain.

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3 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

I actually think that Boris is too much of a pragmatic politician to allow this to happen. He won’t want to be remembered as the last PM of the United Kingdom.

Well if you believe George Osborne, he only supported Johnson because he believed that he was the only leadership contestant who was likely to turn around at some point and say ‘Sorry chaps, this isn’t going to work’ and sack off the whole sorry business.

 

In other news, Michael O’Leary of Ryanair has said that they are likely to get rid of 900 staff next month, not only because of the 737-800 Max debacle, but because the prospect of a no-deal Brexit is hitting ticket sales.

 

Project Fear, no doubt! 🙄

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7 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Really?

 

I guarantee that Scotland and Ireland* will leave the UK before the EU loses any more members.

 

(*and if yesterday’s Newsnight is to be believed, even Wales is seriously reconsidering remaining in a bankrupt union with England, after Scotland and Ireland leave.)

I think Ireland are about as likely as Portugal to leave the UK.

 

It would be sad to see Scotland go, they are a nice successful group of people. They add to our nation.

 

I would not be happy to see the Welsh leave.

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8 hours ago, retep said:

No deal no bill

We've been offered deals.

 

We've been offered something like a Norway deal, we said no - too close a relationship.

 

We've been offered something like a Canada deal, we said no - not close enough.

 

We came up with the withdrawal agreement, as a stepping stone, somewhere to wait while we figure out what we want. The EU agreed, then we voted it down.

 

If we end up with no deal, we really can't blame the EU.

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The most likely scenario is a managed no deal.  Even if there is a no deal, then negotiations will start immediately regarding future relationships between the UK and EU.  Brexit is going to happen and the doom and gloomers, who still don't respect the democratic 2016 EU referendum result are going to have to accept it.

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17 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The most likely scenario is a managed no deal.  Even if there is a no deal, then negotiations will start immediately regarding future relationships between the UK and EU.  Brexit is going to happen and the doom and gloomers, who still don't respect the democratic 2016 EU referendum result are going to have to accept it.

A "managed no deal" is still crashing out of the EU to WTO terms however you dress it up.

 

I accepted back in 2016 that we would leave the EU - the result however appears to have been hijacked by the no deal faction to their own ends eg slashing workers rights, environmental protection, health & safety standards etc - not for the good of the country as a whole.

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21 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Even if there is a no deal, then negotiations will start immediately regarding future relationships between the UK and EU.

With the UK economy rapidly going down the pan after a no deal exit, I think ‘negotiations’ is far to strong a word to describe what will basically be an embarrassing begging for any kind of deal to get us out of the mess.

 

The same will of course apply to ‘negotiations’ with other countries outside the EU.

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