Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Top Cats Hat]

2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Regarding the delay at the Ports, the French big wig said its under control and he can see no reason for delays. 

The ONLY way there would be no delays is if there were no checks on anything travelling into or out of the country. The ONLY way that this could happen is if we were in a customs union, something which I assume you would not support.

[Pettytom]

2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

You are swallowing the remoan at any cost guff. There is no doubt in my mind that medicines will be as available after we leave as they are to-day.

 

Angel1.

Ah, well, we will all pop round to your mind for our insulin in November 

[tinfoilhat]

43 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The ONLY way there would be no delays is if there were no checks on anything travelling into or out of the country. The ONLY way that this could happen is if we were in a customs union, something which I assume you would not support.

Delays of stuff going into France, no there won’t be. ANPR cameras are up, lots of new staff trained and ready to go. Systems in place. Do we have those things? No we do not.

[Top Cats Hat]

26 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

lots of new staff trained and ready to go. 

The head of the Port of Rotterdam said last year, that it would take two to three years just to train up enough new customs officials to deal with freight coming in from the UK after Brexit.

[tinfoilhat]

10 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The head of the Port of Rotterdam said last year, that it would take two to three years just to train up enough new customs officials to deal with freight coming in from the UK after Brexit.

The guy who I read seemed to think France was sorted. I'll find the link.

 

Worth pointing out though that Rotterdam is by the biggest port in Europe (the world?) So their staffing issues might be bigger.

[Top Cats Hat]

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

Worth pointing out though that Rotterdam is by the biggest port in Europe (the world?) So their staffing issues might be bigger.

Ten times more freight goes between the EU and Dover than the UK and Rotterdam.

[L00b]

8 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

The guy who I read seemed to think France was sorted. I'll find the link.

 

Worth pointing out though that Rotterdam is by the biggest port in Europe (the world?) So their staffing issues might be bigger.

France doesn't need to sort much : most of the freight transiting via Calais is outbound to the UK (UK imports much more than it exports - "they need us more than we need them", remember?)

 

That freight is arriving in Calais on lorries or rail, e.g. from Rotterdam where its been transhipped  from arriving cargo ships, for loading onto UK-bound ferries and Euroshuttles.

 

It's UK customs that need sorting for that: because that freight is outbound to the UK, so leaving France, it's not French customs responsibility to check it as it goes out of France, it's UK customs responsibility to check it as it gets into the UK.

 

The expected queues won't be on the French side (-too much), especially if the UK just waves through everything coming in down in Dover to try and prevent the problem (...but then, creating lots of other problems, particularly of the drug/people/weapons/etc smuggling kind).

 

They'll be bad in Kent on the return side though (insufficient UK infrastructure), to the point where EU27 hauliers will soon stop taking contracts for UK imports deliveries and sending trucks through (to stop their rolling stock from getting stuck, empty, in the UK for days on end).

 

UK hauliers, without the requisite permits for continental driving and picking up (read up on that if needed) won't be able to take up enough of the slack in imports delivery contracts.

Edited August 20, 2019 by L00b

[El Cid]

10 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

The guy who I read seemed to think France was sorted. I'll find the link.

 

Worth pointing out though that Rotterdam is by the biggest port in Europe (the world?) So their staffing issues might be bigger.

Depending in which side you are on, depends on which guy you beleive/prefer for news.

[Obelix]

15 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Serious answer, your other half is not the only one who's life depends on medication, my own is on the same footing. But I still back Brexit and the Governments ability to keep us supplied with our life saving drugs.

 

Another serious question, why would Brexit stop these drugs getting here. Are the foreign pharmaceuticals just going to stop sending them to us as a punishment for Brexit. I doubt it very much. Regarding the delay at the Ports, the French big wig said its under control and he can see no reason for delays. I must try to find his name.

 

Angel1.

It's been pointed out to you many times by myself and others why a customs barrier will stop flow of trade.

 

It's now been pointed out to you in Govt planning documents that there will be delays.

 

This is not something you can dismiss as project fear - this is going to happen and people are going to do. The utter selfishness you show because of this tells me all I need to know about your empathy, your logic and critical decision making skills.

 

Led by donkeys is becoming more and more the reality here. But the populace is going to rise up and there is going to be serious civil disorder from this and I know whose door they will be kicking in.

[retep]

11 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

The guy who I read seemed to think France was sorted. I'll find the link.

 

Worth pointing out though that Rotterdam is by the biggest port in Europe (the world?) So their staffing issues might be bigger.

This fella?  Jean-Marc Puissesseau

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/no-deal-brexit-dover-calais-ports-consequences-queues-france/