Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Top Cats Hat]

3 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

I’m sure you have previously criticised the timing, saying it was triggered too early. If not I apologise, but a lot of people have made that argument, and I don’t see the logic. 

As someone who has consistantly said that referendum result did not oblige the government to do anything and therefore not only should Brexit not have been promised the day after the referendum but the revocation of Article 50 similarly does not require a second referendum, simply a government willing to put the interests of the nation first. 

[melthebell]

6 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

As someone who has consistantly said that referendum result did not oblige the government to do anything and therefore not only should Brexit not have been promised the day after the referendum but the revocation of Article 50 similarly does not require a second referendum, simply a government willing to put the interests of the nation first. 

indeed, as a decent "proper" government, you wouldve taken the referendum results and analysed them, while also looking at any benefits of leaving (which i still dont really much off) and the risks (lots of) then you would announce something, not just blindly shout ok we  are leaving

I think the labour pennies just dropped

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He said: "[No-deal Brexit] won't return sovereignty, it will put us at the mercy of Trump and the big US corporations dying to get their teeth into our NHS, sound the death knell for our steel industry and strip back our food standards and animal welfare protections."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49476705

 

now if theyd only have thought of that 2 years sooner, he also mentioned workers rights earlier too but the page has changed and its gone

Edited August 27, 2019 by melthebell

[Top Cats Hat]

4 minutes ago, melthebell said:

indeed, as a decent "proper" government, you wouldve taken the referendum results and analysed them, while also looking at any benefits of leaving (which i still dont really much off) and the risks (lots of) then you would announce something, not just blindly shout ok we  are leaving

Or at least be honest with the electorate.

 

You can’t campaign against leaving on the grounds that great economic damage will be done and then the very next day go ‘OK, we are now going to facilitate that economic damage but it probably wont be that bad.’

 

After the referendum result we didn’t see economic forecasters saying ‘Oh well, we were wrong and the Leave campaign was right’. They continued to predict economic hardship as the government should have done. When did the government decide to become an extension of the Vote Leave campaign and peddle the same lies and false promises?

 

We are in this mess regardless of whether the government should have decided to leave or not, simply because they told everyone that it was going to be fine.

 

And it wasn’t. 🙄

[janie48]

I see the Archbishop of Canterbury is being criticised for interfering in Brexit. 

 

I don't suppose he'll have any influence, but I don't. see why he shouldn't. express his opinion. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/27/dont-interfere-with-brexit-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-told#ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/27/dont-interfere-with-brexit-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-told

[melthebell]

6 minutes ago, janie48 said:

I see the Archbishop of Canterbury is being criticised for interfering in Brexit. 

 

I don't suppose he'll have any influence, but I don't. see why he shouldn't. express his opinion. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/27/dont-interfere-with-brexit-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-told#ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/27/dont-interfere-with-brexit-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-told

generally they shouldnt be involved in political stuff BUT having said that he does tend to get involved in the poor and needy, which this could make a lot more of

Edited August 27, 2019 by melthebell

[janie48]

2 minutes ago, melthebell said:

generally they shouldnt be involved in political stuff BUT having said that he does tend to get involved in the poor and needy, which this could make a lot more of

Exactly! 

[Top Cats Hat]

1 minute ago, melthebell said:

generally they shouldnt be involved in political stuff 

Everybody who has a stake in the well-being of this country should be involved.

 

Where on earth does this idea come from that only certain people should be allowed to voice an opinion on political matters?

[Lockdoctor]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

 

And now your lies. Davis was in charge. The fact he passed the buck when he got fired for doing his job badly does not absolve him from blame.

No lies from me.  This morning Boris Johnson has sent his chief Brexit negotiator David Frost to Brussels and not the current Brexit Secretary.  When Theresa May was Prime Minister, Oliver Robbins did the job that David Frost is doing now.  Davis was in charge of nothing.

[Top Cats Hat]

17 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Boris Johnson has sent his chief Brexit negotiator 

What is the job description of a chief Brexit negotiator when the Brexit negotiations ended nine months ago?

 

I hope he is not getting paid! 😉

[tinfoilhat]

26 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

No lies from me.  This morning Boris Johnson has sent his chief Brexit negotiator David Frost to Brussels and not the current Brexit Secretary.  When Theresa May was Prime Minister, Oliver Robbins did the job that David Frost is doing now.  Davis was in charge of nothing.

What did Davies, on the rare occasion he went to Brussels in 2016/2017 what was he there to do and what was his job title?