Climate change protests

[hackey lad]

4 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Wealthy celebrity Dame Emma Thompson flew 5400 miles to join the climate change protest

 

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/19/emma-thompson-flew-5400-miles-join-climate-change-protest-9262552/

 

"Wearing dungarees with an 'Extinction Rebellion' sticker on the front, Ms Thompson told Sky News that she was ‘proud and thrilled’ to be part of the protests."

 

She had flown in from Los Angeles where she had appeared on a chat show.

 

'Extinction Rebellion' obviously believes that wealthy celebrities only use planes in absolute emergencies, as Dame Emma Thompson did. But ordinary people going on holiday must be prevented from flying or using public transport at all costs.

To read poetry 😊

[tinfoilhat]

Just now, hackey lad said:

To read poetry 😊

I found out about that - on the front page of several newspapers, so job done really?

 

Adam boulton tore strips of some teenager but give the likes of Gove a free ride. It’s bizarre.

[Anna B]

Why are we discussing Emma Thompson's 'hypocracy' or trivia like whether the flag is made out of plastic fibres, etc? 

 

This is just diverting the argument about very serious issues. It doesn't ask why no other form of less polluting, but fast travel is available, and if not, why not? ) Or why other, better substances are not always used in preference to the toxic ones.

 

Why do people always launch into people who are simply doing their best to raise important issues that need to be, and should be discussed, rather than look at the bigger picture of what they're actually trying to do,?  

[ECCOnoob]

Because Anna they are important things that should be highlighted.  

 

Just because it goes against your own stance does not mean you can waft your hand and dismiss it. 

 

I feel that discussing the potentially massive hypocracy of this protest group and it's luvvie supporters is just as relevant as anything else

 

Are they using mass produced pound shop flags and banners made in a sweat shop in china?   Are their slogan t shirts made by some child worker in Bangladesh for tuppence a day?   Do they use any kind of fossil based fuel to get to and from these events   - If yes, they are part of the problem and have absolutely  no right to be preaching and disrupting others going about their business. 

 

As for our celebrity friends and jetsetters breezing in to show their "support".  Makes me sick.  

 

Personally I feel these silly stunts done more damage than good - particularly when the started disrupting mass public transit systems.   

 

Everybody knows the message they have been preaching on about it for 30 years. The majority of the Western world ARE doing something about it.  

 

We all know exactly who are causing the problems but I bet ER won't be seen causing disruption there.

 

It's totally obvious that the target should be the countries, regimes and companies which are causing the biggest problem.  But as always with these protest groups they have no balls to tackle the corporate world and just go for the easier option of disrupting the general public.   

 

[davyboy]

It's pity they got rid of Boris's water cannons.

Didn't see post 191

Edited April 20, 2019 by davyboy

[Staunton]

1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

We all know exactly who are causing the problems but I bet ER won't be seen causing disruption there.

 

It's totally obvious that the target should be the countries, regimes and companies which are causing the biggest problem.  But as always with these protest groups they have no balls to tackle the corporate world and just go for the easier option of disrupting the general public.   

 

Perhaps you could explain precisely who these targets are, and outline an effective means of challenging their practice and policy in such a manner that further global warming is averted? And please do give us some indication of who shall be tasked with this challenge.

[melthebell]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Why are we discussing Emma Thompson's 'hypocracy' or trivia like whether the flag is made out of plastic fibres, etc? 

 

This is just diverting the argument about very serious issues. It doesn't ask why no other form of less polluting, but fast travel is available, and if not, why not? ) Or why other, better substances are not always used in preference to the toxic ones.

 

Why do people always launch into people who are simply doing their best to raise important issues that need to be, and should be discussed, rather than look at the bigger picture of what they're actually trying to do,?  

Because people would rather argue the toss against rather than take on board the message

[WiseOwl182]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Why are we discussing Emma Thompson's 'hypocracy' or trivia like whether the flag is made out of plastic fibres, etc? 

 

This is just diverting the argument about very serious issues. It doesn't ask why no other form of less polluting, but fast travel is available, and if not, why not? ) Or why other, better substances are not always used in preference to the toxic ones.

 

Why do people always launch into people who are simply doing their best to raise important issues that need to be, and should be discussed, rather than look at the bigger picture of what they're actually trying to do,?  

The hypocrisy very much shows a "do as I say and not as I do" approach to protest. It's not going to win people over - people whose carbon footprint will be far, far less than left wing celebs jumping on a PR bandwagon.

[Staunton]

Again, as I have related elsewhere on the forum, in 2011 Occupy represented the last chance for us to listen and act as finance capital rotted the core of democracy. Too late - we did not take any notice. We preferred to mock and sneer, and now we face the neo-reactionary forces that have infested the body politic. Similarly, we cannot allow the business-as-usual adepts of political distraction and corporate propaganda to prevail. Extinction Rebellion are offering us this very last chance to engage meaningfully with the existential crisis that is facing us all as the planet begins to boil and rage beyond habitability. And too late this time really shall mean too late for everythying, for everyone.

 

We might be exhausted and humiliated, our critical faculties diminished as collective intellect gives way to confusion and anxiety, but unless we summon the energy to halt the forces of petro-brutality and calculated political inaction, we shall face true devastation. Extinction Rebellion are asking us to recognise our common plight and understand the urgency of the task.

[FinBak]

Wake me up when Humans ACTUALLY alter the climate any more than NATURE has and does?.

 

The Energy providers would be most interested to hear from you.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, melthebell said:

Because people would rather argue the toss against rather than take on board the message

There is a VAST difference between 'arguing the toss' and FACTS.