Robin-H Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said: I believe the yacht and the Miss USA thing etc are the doing of Jefri Bolkiah- the Sultan's brother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefri_Bolkiah,_Prince_of_Brunei Ah yes my mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: Yes I was, if joking is the right word. Given how the rest of the world world is moving I cannot fathom why an apparently civilised society has taken this giant step backwards. But lots of the world is moving backwards. Indonesia is also hotting up on Sharia laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, woodview said: But lots of the world is moving backwards. Indonesia is also hotting up on Sharia laws. Only in one small province, Aceh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, bendix said: Only in one small province, Aceh. I was also thinking of Malasia, got mixed up, in eastern provinces and on Borneo also. Not to the extent of the Brunei article though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, woodview said: I was also thinking of Malasia, got mixed up, in eastern provinces and on Borneo also. Not to the extent of the Brunei article though. Again, I think that's overstated. The Malaysian constitution gives states the right to pass sharia law, but so far only three out of god knows how many have done so, and none of those rules have been implemented because they are prima facie against the Federal States of Malaysia constitution. I think there is a lot of confusion about sharia law and the way it's implemented. Sharia courts exist - even in the UK - but they are effectively toothless and usually only involved in matrimonial disputes and that kind of thing. I've yet to see anyone have their hand amputated for shoplifting at Heeley Mosque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 "George Clooney calls for hotel boycott over Brunei LGBT laws" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47744566 I shall refrain from making any 'celebs poking their noses in' comments as his wife is a very well respected human rights lawyer and he probably knows more about the situatiion than we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: "George Clooney calls for hotel boycott over Brunei LGBT laws" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47744566 I shall refrain from making any 'celebs poking their noses in' comments as his wife is a very well respected human rights lawyer and he probably knows more about the situatiion than we do! I'll follow his advice and not use the Dorchester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janus Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Elton John has joined the campaign to boycott the hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm06 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 29/03/2019 at 16:33, Top Cats Hat said: "George Clooney calls for hotel boycott over Brunei LGBT laws" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47744566 I shall refrain from making any 'celebs poking their noses in' comments as his wife is a very well respected human rights lawyer and he probably knows more about the situatiion than we do! Well thank goodness! I've been pacing waiting to hear what Mr Clooney thinks I should do. Thankfully Ellen has also re-tweeted to tell us all not to use these hotels, annoying, since I often hang out in luxury hotels when I'm not working. No of course I know why they've said/tweeted this etc and I guess every little helps but as far as I'm aware the Sultan comes from a background of Oil and unimaginable wealth I can hardly see this having any impact what so ever and that's if you manage to convince everyone (who can afford these places) to boycott them - which is highly unlikely, lets be honest most people couldn't care less about the intricate background ownership and workings of most places which is why Apple, Nike and a plethora of other business are globally massive despite the allegations of slave labour etc... they simply just want the product or services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tomm06 said: and that's if you manage to convince everyone (who can afford these places) to boycott them - which is highly unlikely, Branding is more important than ever in this day and age and most luxury hotel bookings are made by corporations rather than wealthy individuals. It only takes a couple of high profile companies maybe with a gay CEO to publicly shun this hotel chain (let's not forget that there are dozens of luxury hotel chains around the world) to get the ball rolling and once the boycott reaches a tipping point, other companies who neither know nor care what happens in Brunei pull out because they don't want to be branded 'unmutual' by the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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