Electoral reform

[hackey lad]

Shown leadership over Brexit , seriously Anna ,his party are as split as the Tories

[RiffRaff]

It seems obvious to me that the referendum was given to Joe Public because there would/could be only one outcome... it never occurred that we would have the timerity/audacity to vote for anything other than "remain".
Almost three years later, farce after farce, the bunch of charlatans and cheats have managed to derail a democratic vote, pretending concern for "the country" by using every trick in the book and then some.
I call them charlatans and cheats, because that's exactly what they are.

 

[tinfoilhat]

10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

It's a new party in as much as he has changed the direction of the party, because he recognised that a large demographic that traditionally supported Labour had no representation, and hadn't had representation for a long time.

I think he's shown tremendous leadership to achieve this in the face of such fierce opposition.

 

He's also shown leadership over Brexit, but it hasn't been covered in the media, or it has been misrepresented. How often have minor members or Blairites been wheeled out (even Blair himself) to pontificate on Brexit and often have a sly dig at Corbyn who hasn't been invited to defend himself or get a word in. Brexit is complex, he does complex answers not catchy soundbites.

 

He's been returned as the member for Islington for 30 years. It has an interesting mix of people, both multicultural and fiscally diverse, not the easiest mix to juggle, so he must be doing something right. Why would they want to vote him out?

You've said it yourself, he's been there 30 years. He's establishment. He's childish "oooh I can't go in there, chukkahs in there". Pathetic. 

 

Ideally, like his 650 odd dishonerable colleagues, he should go and resign. He  won't of course, it's somebody else's fault, so the electorate will have to vote him out.

1 minute ago, RiffRaff said:

It seems obvious to me that the referendum was given to Joe Public because there would/could be only one outcome... it never occurred that we would have the timerity/audacity to vote for anything other than "remain".
Almost three years later, farce after farce, the bunch of charlatans and cheats have managed to derail a democratic vote, pretending concern for "the country" by using every trick in the book and then some.
I call them charlatans and cheats, because that's exactly what they are.

 

Agree. 

 

One snippet I've found out is that it's against the rules of the HoC to call a fellow MP a liar.

 

That really needs to change.

[Top Cats Hat]

19 minutes ago, Anna B said:

He's also shown leadership over Brexit,

That's absolute rubbish.

 

The guy is a dyed in the wool Eurosceptic and had basically kept his head down and done nothing in the hope that we will exit the EU and then throw his hands up in the air saying "Oh well, it's too late, it's done now!"

 

He has also thrown away the best chance in history to lead a genuinely socialist party to power in the UK. He will never be forgiven for that.

[hackey lad]

I don't agree with a lot of what you say  but this time , I concur

[tinfoilhat]

45 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I hope Angela Smith is not reading this.

 

All this talk of changing politics and no one has even mentioned her new Change Party! 😢

She’s part of the problem. Clear your desk Angela, I’m very much hoping you’ll be out of a job soon. 

[woodview]

8 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

She’s part of the problem. Clear your desk Angela, I’m very much hoping you’ll be out of a job soon. 

She'll be spitting feathers if there's  a GE, She'd have had few years representing a party none of 'her' constituents had voted for.

[tinfoilhat]

Does any party represent any constituency any more? North East Derbyshire has welsh a Tory lawyer who is quite cosy with the ERG. How the **** can he connect to his constituents ? Ply them with bull**** seems to work.

 

Sack him off!

[woodview]

52 minutes ago, Anna B said:

so he must be doing something right. Why would they want to vote him out?

They just vote Labour.

Same way as most MPs get in. Technically, you are voting for the person. In practice people vote for a party.

[tinfoilhat]

19 minutes ago, woodview said:

They just vote Labour.

Same way as most MPs get in. Technically, you are voting for the person. In practice people vote for a party.

70.

 

70 out of 650 changed hands at the last election. Hardly sticking it to the man is it “Medadvotedlaboursoivotelabour”, isn’t helping. Well, it’s helping MPs is safe seats rinse us all for £77k a year. It’s helping other countries too - we’ve dropped well down the international pecking order.