Halibut Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Penistone999 said: I thought you were a big believer of free speech ? I am. People are free to express stupid, bigoted views - and I'm free to tell them their views are bigoted and stupid. It's not a complicated concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Yeah but said: Who was I last month then? Do you not know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Halibut said: I am. People are free to express stupid, bigoted views - and I'm free to tell them their views are bigoted and stupid. It's not a complicated concept. I have no time for religion , any of them , but the views he holds are not illegal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26b-6 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Penistone999 said: I have no time for religion , any of them , but the views he holds are not illegal . Exactly. Defending someone's right to freedom of expression does not mean you agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, 26b-6 said: Exactly. Defending someone's right to freedom of expression does not mean you agree with them. Probably does in Penistone999's case though. He's got no time for folks that aren't heterosexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 hours ago, 26b-6 said: Defending someone's right to freedom of expression does not mean you agree with them. A few years back, one of the lassies who lost her legs in the Alton Towers accident was subjected to some vile stuff on social media by people who thought that it was funny to pick on her disability. Do you defend their right to do that. In New York state there is now a serious health emergency due to a measles outbreak caused by people deliberately spreading misinformation about the measles vaccine. Do you defend their right to do that. Katie Price's son Harvey was subjected to months of appalling abuse on social media by trolls. Do you defend their right to do that? Disabled campaigner Samantha Renke was subjected to abuse on Twitter after doing a diasbility rights advert including comments like 'Real humans walk on two legs' Do you defend their right to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I'll be happy to answer you, Top Cats Hat: 38 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: A few years back, one of the lassies who lost her legs in the Alton Towers accident was subjected to some vile stuff on social media by people who thought that it was funny to pick on her disability. Do you defend their right to do that. Yes. Bad taste joke, but I'd defend their right. 39 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: In New York state there is now a serious health emergency due to a measles outbreak caused by people deliberately spreading misinformation about the measles vaccine. Do you defend their right to do that. Yes, if the misinformation doesn't come from medical professional/organisation. The biggest problem in this case are people believing the misinformation, I'd personally propose other mechanisms to fight this than taking someone's right to spread (even false) opinions. 42 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Katie Price's son Harvey was subjected to months of appalling abuse on social media by trolls. Do you defend their right to do that? Yes, if there's no crime committed (e.g. threats, stalking, harassing, ...) 44 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Disabled campaigner Samantha Renke was subjected to abuse on Twitter after doing a diasbility rights advert including comments like 'Real humans walk on two legs' Do you defend their right to do that? Again, yes, if there's no crime committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Penistone999 said: I have no time for religion , any of them , but the views he holds are not illegal . And he's not broken any laws, he's not being prosecuted, he's not going to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: And he's not broken any laws, he's not being prosecuted, he's not going to jail. But the Liberal`s are jumping on their soapbox because he aired his opinion , which he is entitled to hold. Its not for anyone to say he is wrong or right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: because he aired his opinion , which he is entitled to hold. Its not for anyone to say he is wrong or right. Really? When Anna Soubry expresses her opinion on Brexit, you call her a traitor! So basically the only people you believe should have freedom of speech are those that you agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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