Johny87 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) I think just 1-2 wires are on wrong place, as light's are working when switching them on. The only thing is that i can turn both lights on, individual from first switch for example, but moving to the other side of the room if i press first button on switch, there's nothing happening. If i press the second button, one of the lights is switching off. Pressing the first button down and the second one up both light's are swithing off. So i need to switch random possition of both switches in the room, until i find the correct possition for them to be on or off. Edited April 7, 2019 by Johny87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Find your incoming live from the ceiling rose to the switches. It's hopefully going to be red or brown... That goes to the side of the switch with a single terminal... The other side takes two wires, which go to the two terminal end on the opposite switch on the other side of the kitchen... The single side from that is the switched live to the ceiling rose that goes to the lights. Repeat as for the other set of switches and lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, Obelix said: Find your incoming live from the ceiling rose to the switches. It's hopefully going to be red or brown... That goes to the side of the switch with a single terminal... The other side takes two wires, which go to the two terminal end on the opposite switch on the other side of the kitchen... The single side from that is the switched live to the ceiling rose that goes to the lights. Repeat as for the other set of switches and lights. Assuming of course that the looping is done via the ceiling roses. Hopefully and assuming are poor ways to work with electricity. OP, get an electrician. Nothing wrong with not knowing what to do. Then it will be done correctly and safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny87 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Will see what i can do by myself. If not, then i will call an electrician. But hopefully i will get is sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janus Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 hours ago, slh73 said: As a sparky, and looking at the state of the job in that photo, I wouldn't take that on for 250 quid. Nothing worse than sorting something where someone's mate 'had a go at it' and ballsed it up It is not what you think it is. The OP simply took the switches off the wall prior to plastering, bought new switches and is struggling to remember where the wires go on the new switches. As a qualified sparky you would know what to do straight away if a customer asked you to connect 2 switches to existing wiring that worked perfectly with the old switches. See post No3. Give the OP a break, and a nice price. Blame his wife when you are having a mug of tea & choc digetives afterwards as she wanted nice new switches after decorating. 😉 🍮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Obelix is right. Flow his instruction. Here's the diagram If its a modern installation, it will be wired in flat three core and earth, with a three-plate ceiling rose. The lights should switch on and off from either switch position. The yellow is live and should be sleeved red.The CPC (earth) should be sleeved yellow and green. It's called " Two-way switching ". http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-to/light-fitting/two-way-light-switching The diagrams that you have given makes it look like an odd arrangement. Two-way switching with single way switching available.Single switching of either lamp by the appropriate single pole switch in the two-ganged box. If I'm right it's an odd arrangement-hence all the wires. It's always difficult to disentangle what is being described unless one is actually on the spot. Modern lighting installation uses the three plate ceiling rose method. Looping in (which provides a live feed for the next ceiling rose) at the ceiling rose. Ordinarily, one would only need two single ganged-two-way-switches ,for a two-way lighting system. Tip. Never work on the circuit unless it is properly isolated-eg, dead. Edited April 10, 2019 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 B That's always a safe option. The 18 th Ed of IEE Regs, says any wire that is live at any time must be identified as such ., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny87 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Also i want to say guys, i've got new light switches (Schneider Sedna IP20) Can you also tell me what every hole means so i can fit the properly? Will try to fit them by myself. Also how can i put two wires into that small holes? Like on a two-way switching for exmple? Is that possible? The holes seems to be just to fit one cable. Single switch: https://ibb.co/W3V3cjy Double switch: https://ibb.co/ws5M8tz Edited April 10, 2019 by Johny87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarmingmark Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Johny87 said: Also i want to say guys, i've got new light switches (Schneider Sedna IP20) Can you also tell me what every hole means so i can fit the properly? Will try to fit them by myself. Also how can i put two wires into that small holes? Like on a two-way switching for exmple? Is that possible? The holes seems to be just to fit one cable. Single switch: https://ibb.co/W3V3cjy Double switch: https://ibb.co/ws5M8tz You mean the double hole = two wires on each contact ....with the diagram on back of the switch .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) The switch plate of a two-way switch will have one common terminal and two terminals L1 and L2 usually as a single ganged box. The switching is made from common to L1 or common to L2. http://www.sparkyfacts.co.uk/Wiring-Diagrams-Two-Way-Lighting-Circuit.php So if you wanted you can have a switch feed (live ) to the common and a switch wire L1 or L2 to the ceiling rose . It then acts as a single pole switch. Edited April 11, 2019 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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