British Billionaire equates paying more taxes to 'being raped'

[Cyclone]

So on a topic about a billionaire, taxes and ill judged comments, you thought it necessary to attack Dianne Abbott instead of talking about the topic?

[WiseOwl182]

6 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

So on a topic about a billionaire, taxes and ill judged comments, you thought it necessary to attack Dianne Abbott instead of talking about the topic?

"Attack"?! Really? Read the post again.

[Mister M]

2 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I've reflected, and you're piecing together bits from different jigsaws, no doubt in an attempt at faux outrage. Diane Abbott is better known for her apparently limited mathematic ability, as well as being a left wing MP. A perfect example for my tax revenue Vs percent argument.

Less known is that she was also a member of the Treasury Select Committee from 1989 - 1997 and will therefore be no fool on economic matters.

I am aware that her slurred speech and cognitive slowness have caused much hilarity in the gutter press; but I suspect that the constant abuse on a daily basis may have something to do with that.

Edited April 26, 2019 by Mister M

[WiseOwl182]

19 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Less known is that she was also a member of the Treasury Select Committee from 1989 - 1997 and will therefore be no fool on economic matters.

I am aware that her slurred speech and cognitive slowness have caused much hilarity in the gutter press; but I suspect that the constant abuse on a daily basis may have something to do with that.

It's more her arithmetic ability rather than slurred speech which has amused me in the past.

 

She's an advocate of upping the top tax rate, which, as already discussed, is a counter productive virtue signal. Hardly economic competence.

[Pettytom]

53 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

"Attack"?! Really? Read the post again.

Well, it is an attack really. A poorly judged, inappropriate attack. Why bring her into this thread at all?

 

Maybe, instead of denigrating Diane Abbott, you might like to think about her achievements. She has a degree from Cambridge, which is almost unthinkable for a black woman from a state school. She’s the first female black mp. Ok, so numbers might not be her strong point, but lack of accuracy doesn’t seem to hold back Boris. So what has Abbott done to deserve your opprobrium?

[Mister M]

11 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

It's more her arithmetic ability rather than slurred speech which has amused me in the past.

 

She's an advocate of upping the top tax rate, which, as already discussed, is a counter productive virtue signal. Hardly economic competence.

Really? Then you're easily amused.

[WiseOwl182]

5 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Well, it is an attack really. A poorly judged, inappropriate attack. Why bring her into this thread at all?

 

Maybe, instead of denigrating Diane Abbott, you might like to think about her achievements. She has a degree from Cambridge, which is almost unthinkable for a black woman from a state school. She’s the first female black mp. Ok, so numbers might not be her strong point, but lack of accuracy doesn’t seem to hold back Boris. So what has Abbott done to deserve your opprobrium?

 

We're debating economics as a sub topic of some "inappropriate" comments. Diane Abbott is a perfect candidate for a light hearted remark about the economic illiteracy of the left. Being black is completely irrelevant and does not put her beyond criticism either.

 

Going on and on about it is a great diversion tactic from the actual point though. Raising the top tax rate DECREASES the tax revenue. It has been shown as economic reality time and time again.

Edited April 26, 2019 by WiseOwl182

[Pettytom]

1 minute ago, WiseOwl182 said:

 

We're debating economics as a sub topic of some "inappropriate" comments. Diane Abbott is a perfect candidate for a light hearted remark about the economic illiteracy of the left. Being black is completely irrelevant and does not put her beyond criticism either.

 

 

It just comes over as a bit snidey and unpleasant really. If you think it’s ok, then fair enough. I don’t agree with you though.

 

As for taxation. We are long past the point where we can allow the super rich and big corporations to dictate how much they will pay. You’ve seen the size of the deficit. It’s time to fill that gap by taxing the rich properly. If people then run off the Monaco, that’s fine, I’m sure we can deal with that.

[WiseOwl182]

1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

It just comes over as a bit snidey and unpleasant really. If you think it’s ok, then fair enough. I don’t agree with you though.

 

As for taxation. We are long past the point where we can allow the super rich and big corporations to dictate how much they will pay. You’ve seen the size of the deficit. It’s time to fill that gap by taxing the rich properly. If people then run off the Monaco, that’s fine, I’m sure we can deal with that.

I have seen the size of the deficit. It's the smallest it's been for over a decade.

 

As stated before, raising the tax rate too high actually DECREASES the tax revenue taken. It's a hollow virtue signal. If that's what you call taxing the rich "properly" then fine, but personally I'd prefer their actual cash.

[Pettytom]

4 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I have seen the size of the deficit. It's the smallest it's been for over a decade.

 

As stated before, raising the tax rate too high actually DECREASES the tax revenue taken. It's a hollow virtue signal. If that's what you call taxing the rich "properly" then fine, but personally I'd prefer their actual cash.

The deficit is the smallest that it has been under the last two Tory administrations, that’s true. It has come at a huge cost to public services though. Some day soon, the Government is going to have to start funding the police, schools and social services properly once more.

 

That takes money.  And that means increasing the tax take. 

 

If Caudwell doesn’t want to pay, he can clear off and not come back. I’m sure that HMRC can find a way to

tax phones 4u effectively if they try. Or Caudwell when he wants to come back.