Cyclone Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 They absolutely would not seize the mobile phone of an assault victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Cyclone said: They absolutely would not seize the mobile phone of an assault victim. They also don’t seize the phone of a rape victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Have you somehow missed the entire point of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Cyclone said: Have you somehow missed the entire point of this thread? No - nothing is seized. You're applying emotive language to force a point. Edited June 9, 2019 by makapaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Did you want to argue about what coercion means again. The police won't even ask for the phone of an assault victim, they certainly won't refuse to investigate if you don't comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Cyclone said: Did you want to argue about what coercion means again. The police won't even ask for the phone of an assault victim, they certainly won't refuse to investigate if you don't comply. Nope. The proposed legislation applies to all reported crimes.not just rape. You must have missed that. Edited June 9, 2019 by makapaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Even better. Report a hit and run, have to surrender your phone before the police will investigate. Witness a robbery, report it, lose your phone. Genius. If your intent is to simply dissuade people from reporting crimes. Still, I suppose that's good for the crime statistics. Edit - it's not legislative by the way, it's simply a policy. Edited June 10, 2019 by Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Cyclone said: Even better. Report a hit and run, have to surrender your phone before the police will investigate. Witness a robbery, report it, lose your phone. Genius. If your intent is to simply dissuade people from reporting crimes. Still, I suppose that's good for the crime statistics. Edit - it's not legislative by the way, it's simply a policy. Only where it forms a reasonable line of enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 No, that's simply not the case is it. You can't just make things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Cyclone said: No, that's simply not the case is it. You can't just make things up. No that’s specifically what they said “Director of Public Prosecutions Max Hill said such digital information would only be looked at where it forms a "reasonable" line of inquiry, with material going before a court only if it meets stringent rules.” You’ve not really done your research on any of this have you - you’re trying to backfit your argument by making things up - and then wrongly accusing others of doing just that. Edited June 10, 2019 by makapaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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