RootsBooster Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: will EVERYONE covering their face be fined ? I don't think ANYONE is being fined for simply covering their face. I do think the police were out of line for pursuing the chap though, regardless of his reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: will EVERYONE covering their face be fined ? I think people who have just had facial surgery will be exempt. 🤕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 UK public: "facial recognition is an outrage and an attack of our civil liberties" Also UK public whenever there's a crime: "CCTV is rubbish, you can't see the criminals. We need better equipment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, alchresearch said: UK public: "facial recognition is an outrage and an attack of our civil liberties" Also UK public whenever there's a crime: "CCTV is rubbish, you can't see the criminals. We need better equipment" They are not the same things. Automatic facial recognition is about scanning everyone indiscriminately, even where no offence has occurred, and putting the results in a big database. It can be used for automatic tracking of entirely innocent people. Humans looking at CCTV doesn't result in information about everyone who appears on the screen being put in a big database. CCTV pictures might not be very good but automatic facial recognition systems have the same limitations in camera equipment. Even with good images, facial recognition systems currently have an over 90% false positive rate[1] for the general population, going up to about 98% for Afro Caribbeans. [1] That is, it identifies someone as being on a watch list when they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 but apparently the technology is used in China to even fine people for Jay-walking. So is it just the system over here that is terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, geared said: but apparently the technology is used in China to even fine people for Jay-walking. So is it just the system over here that is terrible? Who said it works any better in China? They could be using an automated system to get several potential matches and have a human review them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 17/05/2019 at 18:34, Top Cats Hat said: It is not a crime. He was fined for using the f-word at the cop which is a public order offence. IF thats what it was for he'll win in court. The magistrates have repeatedly ruled that using the F and C words to a copper is not public order as the average copper hears them so often they cannot possibly be offended by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Pettytom said: No. I think that motorcyclists are exempt I was thinking more about pedestrians ? Sure EVERY person these cameras are pointed at should have their face uncovered . Edited May 20, 2019 by Penistone999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 You will have a hard time getting mybeard off which is the easiest way to defeat these... sunglasses and a beard remove almost all the index points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: I was thinking more about pedestrians ? Sure EVERY person these cameras are pointed at should have their face uncovered . Absolutely not. If I want to walk around in a balaclava, I’ll do so, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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