Longcol Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Even the stupidest of Brexit supporters will see that Johnson promising something that he can’t deliver is his fault, not the fault of those who haven’t done anything other than stick to their guns for three years. I wouldn't bet on it. Blaming "Johnny Foreigner" (aka Frogs, Krauts not to mention Muslamics etc) is Brexit 101 to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: I’m not sure that will wash this time round. The EU has been absolutely unflinching in it’s position on the withdrawal agreement and they have stated that the negotiations are finished before, during and after the Tory leadership election. Even the stupidest of Brexit supporters will see that Johnson promising something that he can’t deliver is his fault, not the fault of those who haven’t done anything other than stick to their guns for three years. Important to not back down on this. I’ve already seen the argument from people who have been quite steadfast until now that we should accept something not quite hard Brexit just to appease these headcases. Im not backing down. It’s no Brexit, or my max compromise is Brexit on EEA terms. Nothing less. 2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: I’m not sure that will wash this time round. The EU has been absolutely unflinching in it’s position on the withdrawal agreement and they have stated that the negotiations are finished before, during and after the Tory leadership election. Even the stupidest of Brexit supporters will see that Johnson promising something that he can’t deliver is his fault, not the fault of those who haven’t done anything other than stick to their guns for three years. He’s set up to fail on purpose. Then they will gun for the EU and try and win an election off the back off that. And when they win that election the new enemies are going to be anybody who doesn’t agree with them, and any democratic institution that tries to hold them back. Stand firm. They don’t have any realistic endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffRaff Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hmmm... Back to the original question. Who is the next Tory leader? And how soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, RiffRaff said: Hmmm... Back to the original question. Who is the next Tory leader? And how soon? Out of the previous set of candidates then the Rory bloke seemed to be the only one who understood ordinary people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: To be fair, I agree with William Rees-Mogg Esq’s campaign for the correct use of English. However the enforced use of Imperial measurement is very dangerous and a health and safety nightmare. Hansard records over 700 instances of Mogg using is own banned words and phrases. Quote However the enforced use of Imperial measurement is very dangerous and a health and safety nightmare. I'd either convert from metric to imperial and use lots of decimal places[1] or use really obscure imperial units like pound foot. His suggestion to use double spaces after a full stop just shows how out of touch he is. It doesn't make sense if you use proportional fonts and many systems, HTML/web pages for instance, ignore them. At least one editor refuses to let you enter them as the amount of space after a full stop is a formatting issue. [1] A Chinese website selling a 4 kg product listed it for US customers as 8.818490487 lb. Edited July 27, 2019 by altus Added bit about double spaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: I’m not sure that will wash this time round. The EU has been absolutely unflinching in it’s position on the withdrawal agreement and they have stated that the negotiations are finished before, during and after the Tory leadership election. Even the stupidest of Brexit supporters will see that Johnson promising something that he can’t deliver is his fault, not the fault of those who haven’t done anything other than stick to their guns for three years. He can deliver, no deal - we leave on the 31 October as it's the default condition. Job done. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: He can deliver, no deal - we leave on the 31 October as it's the default condition. Job done. Nobody voted for no deal and Parliament won’t allow the UK to be damaged by a no deal exit, either by forcing an extension or bringing the government down and forcing a general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR123 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Nobody voted for no deal and Parliament won’t allow the UK to be damaged by a no deal exit, either by forcing an extension or bringing the government down and forcing a general election. The question was leave or not. Not what type of leave we do. We voted to leave, so leaving should be the priority, how we leave secondary. I hope we stay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Sterling down to its lowest point against the euro since the euro was introduced. If Boris works really hard I'm sure he can get below 1:1 by October 31, then the floors the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: He can deliver, no deal - we leave on the 31 October as it's the default condition. Job done. Angel1. I think you meant “Jobs done”. Quite a lot of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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