When is it ok to have an abortion?

[SnailyBoy]

17 minutes ago, makapaka said:

I can’t give an example of how it would happen - nor can you confirm it never would.

 

So nhs abortion guidelines state 

 

Medical and surgical abortions cangenerally only be carried out up to 24 weeks of pregnancy. But in exceptional circumstances an abortion can take place after 24 weeks – for example, if there's a risk to life or there are problems with the baby's development.

 

So this is in line with the comments by the doctors in the link you posted.

 

So which part of it do you think should be changed because if it’s nothing than we agree and you can apologise for comparing me to Donald trump.

 

if something does need changing please explain why? 

 

 

''nor can you confirm it never would' You want me to confirm a negative?

 

I posted a statement from a healthcare worker in the US which I'm pretty sure reflects the situation in this country when it comes to healthy women and full term viable pregnancies.

 

Isn't that good enough for you?

 

I compared you to Trump because your hyperbole in earlier posts was comparable to his. No apology required, sorry.

 

 

8 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

So you have confirmed that you believe a woman should have the right to choose to abort a baby at almost 9 months.

 

Now, explain the difference between "aborting" the baby the day before it's birthdate, and murdering it the day after? Why do you think the former should be the woman's choice, but (presumably) the latter illegal by the state? What has changed so drastically in a day?

You'll also notice where I said I didn't think it would happen for a second.

 

What I think will happen, and what happens in reality is that the healthy woman will opt to terminate the pregnancy using a C Section or induction.

 

Unless you can come up with another equally realistic scenario?

Edited June 13, 2019 by SnailyBoy

[Guest makapaka]

3 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said:

''nor can you confirm it never would' You want me to confirm a negative?

 

I posted a statement from a healthcare worker in the US which I'm pretty sure reflects the situation in this country when it comes to healthy women and full term viable pregnancies.

 

Isn't that good enough for you?

 

I compared you to Trump because your hyperbole in earlier posts was comparable to his. No apology required, sorry.

 

 

You'll also notice where I said I didn't think it would happen for a second.

 

What I think will happen, and what happens in reality is that the healthy woman will terminate the pregnancy using a C Section or induction?

 

Unless you can come up with another realistic scenario?

You’ve not answered the question again.

 

what needs to be changed about the existing nhs guidelines -  nothing or something?

[WiseOwl182]

4 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said:

''nor can you confirm it never would' You want me to confirm a negative?

 

I posted a statement from a healthcare worker in the US which I'm pretty sure reflects the situation in this country when it comes to healthy women and full term viable pregnancies.

 

Isn't that good enough for you?

 

I compared you to Trump because your hyperbole in earlier posts was comparable to his. No apology required, sorry.

 

 

You'll also notice where I said I didn't think it would happen for a second.

 

What I think will happen, and what happens in reality is that the healthy woman will terminate the pregnancy using a C Section or induction?

 

Unless you can come up with another realistic scenario?

It's not about whether or not you think it will happen. It's also not about having c sections. It's about whether or not a woman should be able to have their 8 month and 30 day old unborn baby killed. You admitted you think they should. 

[SnailyBoy]

Just now, makapaka said:

You’ve not answered the question again.

 

what needs to be changed about the existing nhs guidelines -  nothing or something?

Nothing, as pointed out in the earlier post healthy viable full term women don't choose abortion as a solution to their pregnancy.

[WiseOwl182]

6 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said:

Nothing, as pointed out in the earlier post healthy viable full term women don't choose abortion as a solution to their pregnancy.

Because it's illegal. Should it be an option for them?

[Guest makapaka]

3 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said:

Nothing, as pointed out in the earlier post healthy viable full term women don't choose abortion as a solution to their pregnancy.

Then we agree it does not need to be changed. 

 

and therefore the original post that said that someone should be able to choose abortion outside of those guidelines set out by the nhs is wrong then? 

 

Because for the original post to be right the nhs would have to change those guidelines?

[SnailyBoy]

Just now, WiseOwl182 said:

It's not about whether or not you think it will happen. It's also not about having c sections. It's about whether or not a woman should be able to have their 8 month and 30 day old unborn baby killed. You admitted you think they should. 

Of course it's about what will happen, we have evidence of what happens in reality. Healthy women with full term viable pregnancies don't choose abortion as solution to their pregnancy, look at the stats.

 

 

 

 

[WiseOwl182]

Just now, SnailyBoy said:

Of course it's about what will happen, we have evidence of what happens in reality. Healthy women with full term viable pregnancies don't choose abortion as solution to their pregnancy, look at the stats.

 

 

 

 

Because it's illegal. Should it be an option for them?

[SnailyBoy]

1 minute ago, makapaka said:

Then we agree it does not need to be changed. 

 

and therefore the original post that said that someone should be able to choose abortion outside of those guidelines set out by the nhs is wrong then? 

 

Because for the original post to be right the nhs would have to change those guidelines?

I don't think it's a simplistic as that. As I said, the evidence shows that healthy women don't do that.

 

There are many nuances as to why someone may choose a late term abortion that need to be considered.

[WiseOwl182]

Just now, SnailyBoy said:

I don't think it's a simplistic as that. As I said, the evidence shows that healthy women don't do that.

 

There are many nuances as to why someone may choose a late term abortion that need to be considered.

Here's one possible nuance: a woman carries a baby for 8 months and 30 days and then decides she doesn't want it any more. Should she be able to abort it?  Yes or no will suffice.