Speed Limit On Sheffield Parkway Set To Be Cut?

[ECCOnoob]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

Your a learner taking your test, you should be trying to impress the examiner, show him your skills, considerate and careful driving.

I don"t think the examiner would be impressed if you were hurtling along at 30.

Showing him your skills as you put it is demonstrating that you can competently drive at an appropriate speed for the road conditions. 

 

Do you think that examiner would be impressed by some deliberately being overcautious and driving slowly?   How exactly is that demonstrating competent driving skills?

 

What about if said learner was being over cautious and decides to trundle along at 40mph on a 60-70mph dual carraigeway?    I take it that is perfectly accepted on your planet.

 

 

2 minutes ago, redbig said:

Rubbish. You don't spot it because you're going too fast, hence your reaction time is slower.

 

The road is full of them, terrible drivers, where are they going that's so important? 

 

Even see some idiots get off the parkway at Matalan going into town (in rush hour) just to rejoin and beat 6 cars. 

Good for them. 

 

They are 6 cars ahead at the next junction and could likely get through the next set of lights one change ahead than they otherwise would have done which will mean they can get through the next set one change ahead and soforth.

 

Getting those 6 cars ahead may get them in front of that bus which is almost ready to depart or that truck which was just about to start its reverse into a side road orthat level crossing which was almost ready to come down.....

 

What exactly is the problem?

[darylslinn]

2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Showing him your skills as you put it is demonstrating that you can competently drive at an appropriate speed for the road conditions. 

 

Do you think that examiner would be impressed by some deliberately being overcautious and driving slowly?   How exactly is that demonstrating competent driving skills?

 

What about if said learner was being over cautious and decides to trundle along at 40mph on a 60-70mph dual carraigeway?    I take it that is perfectly accepted on your planet.

 

 

Good for them. 

 

They are 6 cars ahead at the next junction and could likely get through the next set of lights one change ahead than they otherwise would have done which will mean they can get through the next set one change ahead and soforth.

 

Getting those 6 cars ahead may get them in front of that bus which is almost ready to depart or that truck which was just about to start its reverse into a side road orthat level crossing which was almost ready to come down.....

 

What exactly is the problem?

The way they go hurtling through the Matalan / Burger King / Greggs car park and then barging their way in.... why do they need to do that ?
And then instead of waiting to go right along the Derek Dooley Way they hurtle down to Park Square, rat run towards the Wicker and along Nursery Street only to be beaten by the car that was in front of them at the Nursery Street lights.... but hey ho if they want to waste their fuel all for trying to save a few second in which case they actually haven't it's up to them.

As a regular driver along that route at the same time every morning you begin to take a mental note of these vehicles and it's the same ones nearly everyday !

That said i've not seen many trucks reversing into side roads off the Parkway or level crossings for that matter..... maybe if we go back 60 years to that area we'd see the odd railway track !

[Phili Buster]

16 hours ago, rogets said:

I do think the parkway needs a toll, maybe £5 per car

 

To help combat climate change

Future generations will not forgive us if we don't act now

Why only a £5 toll?   To help combat climate change then why not a fine on people with flatulence? 

[PRESLEY]

50 minutes ago, Phili Buster said:

Why only a £5 toll?   To help combat climate change then why not a fine on people with flatulence? 

That would surely create a Windfall.  

[Resident]

17 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Err get banned for life for driving 5mph under,  oh yeh thats far more serious than killing someone. 

Slow drivers also cause accidents & fatalities 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1064849/UK-Road-death-figures-slow-drivers-department-for-Transport

[PRESLEY]

24 minutes ago, Resident said:

Slow drivers also cause accidents & fatalities 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1064849/UK-Road-death-figures-slow-drivers-department-for-Transport

Did you read the part where it said driving like a snail causes accidents and so does driving like a cheetah,   Ive never in my post mentioned people should drive at snail pace.  I say the danger with driving too fast  gives less time to correct any type errors that a speeding driver may encounter.  Flippinhell its common sense.  Take your time. Best to get to your destination in one piece rather than not at all,  who cares if your late for an appointment which is actually down to  your own bad- time management.

[Resident]

6 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Did you read the part where it said driving like a snail causes accidents and so does driving like a cheetah,   Ive never in my post mentioned people should drive at snail pace.  I say the danger with driving too fast  gives less time to correct any type errors that a speeding driver may encounter.  Flippinhell its common sense.  Take your time. Best to get to your destination in one piece rather than not at all,  who cares if your late for an appointment which is actually down to  your own bad- time management.

The only person harping on about driving too fast is you. The rest of us are talking about driving up to or at the predetermined speed limit in good conditions. Limits that have been set at their respective figures because it is safe to travel at those speeds in good conditions. 

 

You are the one that has stated you driving significantly under the limit despite optimal conditions. This has been pointed out to you to be similarly dangerous as driving too fast and also reminded that such hesitant/timid driving is actually grounds to fail your test. Furthermore doing is an offence under careless driving, the penalty of which is actually greater in terms of fines/points than a SP30 offence. 

 

Now that said, I would like to offer you some assistance. Must be difficult constantly moving the goal posts. 

[Cyclone]

On 13/07/2019 at 13:21, PRESLEY said:

Accident causers.  

Ah yes, those accident causers, travelling at the speed limit, how dare they.  Where is the man with the red flag, it's simply not safe to travel faster than a man on horseback.

[PRESLEY]

37 minutes ago, Resident said:

The only person harping on about driving too fast is you. The rest of us are talking about driving up to or at the predetermined speed limit in good conditions. Limits that have been set at their respective figures because it is safe to travel at those speeds in good conditions. 

 

You are the one that has stated you driving significantly under the limit despite optimal conditions. This has been pointed out to you to be similarly dangerous as driving too fast and also reminded that such hesitant/timid driving is actually grounds to fail your test. Furthermore doing is an offence under careless driving, the penalty of which is actually greater in terms of fines/points than a SP30 offence. 

 

Now that said, I would like to offer you some assistance. Must be difficult constantly moving the goal posts. 

You keep  harping on about driving test  Im talking to the nutters on here who think its clever to drive like maniacs. 

[Cyclone]

On 13/07/2019 at 17:47, Padders said:

So a learner driver, driving at 24 mph on his test would fail.

 

A learner driver racing round at 30 mph would pass.

 

find that very strange.

Did you just claim that 30 mph was "racing around"...  Seriously?

On 13/07/2019 at 18:27, DT Ralge said:

Not necessarily.  It might just be marked as a driving fault.  It depends on an interpretation from the examiner.  

I find it remarkable that, on such a forum, the context of a driving test failure comes up time and time again as down to use of speed when there are dozens of other ways you can fail (and many of these errors are committed by your average driver) but they are never mentioned. 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dl25&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#imgdii=ejDU8AP7lrk6gM:&imgrc=PXVzvYIID53CXM:

 

They're not mentioned because they're not relevant to the discussion about speed that's currently happening.