A&e What An Horrific Sight

[Pettytom]

38 minutes ago, Borista336 said:

yes i do have a preferred user , people that actually contribute. 

 

That’ll be s select band then, as most UK taxpayers are not net contributors.

 

I realise that you are probably Alan Sugar in disguise, but spare a thought for the mortals who don’t have a millionaire  lifestyle. They still need medicine too.

 

In any case, people contribute in many different ways to society.

[tinfoilhat]

1 hour ago, Borista336 said:

yes i do have a preferred user , people that actually contribute. as for vat what percentage of that goes on the NHS? will be glad when we are out of europe as well so there will be more money to fund the NHS instead of wasting it and we have more control over health tourists.

yes i do include them expats, including a member of my family who brings her daughter from europe to get dental and medical when needed, i have told them also in no uncertain terms, but they know its better , quicker and cheaper here.

Christmas must be a laugh riot at your house.

[Magilla]

1 hour ago, Borista336 said:

will be glad when we are out of europe as well so there will be more money to fund the NHS instead of wasting it and we have more control over health tourists.

Of course, this is complete nonsense.

 

UK indiginous, on average, are not net contributors to the social pot... unlike EU migrants, who're effectively subsidising the system. That shortfall will have to be made up from taxation or there'll be less money.

 

Then the economy... May's WA was projected to cost the UK economy £1.6bn every 10 days... no-deal, more so... even less money to fund the NHS!

 

The UK is re-imbursed by the member state of any EU citizen that recieves healthcare in the UK, just as UK citizens costs are covered when recieving treatment within the EU27. EU "health tourists" (if such a thing exists) are cost neutral.

 

Health tourism from elsewhere was always controllable.

 

In total health tourism is estimated to cost the NHS less than the cost of missed GP appointments

 

Do the words "hook, line and sinker" mean anything to you? 

 

 

 

[Stranza]

I've been in A&E at the weekend.

It was more like a rowdy festival.

The thing that puzzles me is why the flip everyone needs to take an entourage?

Each time I've been at NGH lately people seem to take all their friends and family.

No seats in the waiting room because a patient has 9 accompaniments.

[Ontarian1981]

7 hours ago, prolific said:

it was 10am on sunday 

So that explains it, the drunks are all hung over and the junkies are coming down, and all are feeling unwell and vulnerable.😩 Poor things. 🙃

[Borista336]

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Of course, this is complete nonsense.

 

UK indiginous, on average, are not net contributors to the social pot... unlike EU migrants, who're effectively subsidising the system. That shortfall will have to be made up from taxation or there'll be less money.

 

Then the economy... May's WA was projected to cost the UK economy £1.6bn every 10 days... no-deal, more so... even less money to fund the NHS!

 

The UK is re-imbursed by the member state of any EU citizen that recieves healthcare in the UK, just as UK citizens costs are covered when recieving treatment within the EU27. EU "health tourists" (if such a thing exists) are cost neutral.

 

Health tourism from elsewhere was always controllable.

 

In total health tourism is estimated to cost the NHS less than the cost of missed GP appointments

 

Do the words "hook, line and sinker" mean anything to you? 

 

 

 

of course you are just listening to the spin and reading from sources who are allied to European hyperbole.

meanwhile in reality??

[pattricia]

1 hour ago, Stranza said:

I've been in A&E at the weekend.

It was more like a rowdy festival.

The thing that puzzles me is why the flip everyone needs to take an entourage?

Each time I've been at NGH lately people seem to take all their friends and family.

No seats in the waiting room because a patient has 9 accompaniments.

 I’ve seen patients relatives bring a take a way in for them.! 

[Pettytom]

11 minutes ago, Borista336 said:

of course you are just listening to the spin and reading from sources who are allied to European hyperbole.

meanwhile in reality??

Give us the figures then Bozza.

 

Get a bit of research done and tell us how much health tourism  costs the NHS. Whilst you are there, have a look at the figures for net contributors to UK PLC.

[Magilla]

34 minutes ago, Borista336 said:

of course you are just listening to the spin and reading from sources who are allied to European hyperbole.

Not really, none of this is a secret... well, except to you

 

34 minutes ago, Borista336 said:

meanwhile in reality??

... the NHS (and public services in general) will suffer from Brexit, not in any way benefit

 

[Michael_W]

The problem with that data is it is intended to mislead, EU migrant workers v British workers would give different figures, the average British citizen v the average EU migrant also generate completely different figures, but of course the average British citizen contribution drops because there are many non working British citizens in education, unemployed and retired !